I'll try the 60% on flight model and see if I still fall out of the sky after about 10-15 minutes of flight time.

I tried this and couldn't get it to do anything.  The rotors were spinning, but it wouldn't lift off.

7 minutes ago, andyjohnston.net said:

I tried this and couldn't get it to do anything.  The rotors were spinning, but it wouldn't lift off.

Did you run the AirlandFS application ?

The plane uses an external non-MSFS flight model so you have to have the AirlandFS app running in order to fly.

That thing is nuts to fly on 100 percent realism, I know a chopper takes of small and precise movements but it's a wild ride, I don't think CH rudders pedals are up to the task and I suspect that's half the problem,turn the settings down a bit very good chopper

On 9/16/2021 at 5:22 AM, ryanbatcund said:

I set 60% for flight model....wow very lovely!

Does the setting stick in the Airland app for you?

I have to move the sliders back again at every app restart…

Cheers,

Sylvain

1 hour ago, Sylle said:

Does the setting stick in the Airland app for you?

I have to move the sliders back again at every app restart…

Cheers,

Sylvain

It did for me

Yeah although I still feel extremely positive about the potential I'm now seeing why this is considered only 5% complete. My initial glowing impression was based on the immediate feel when taking off and hovering, hover-taxiing and a  quick flight and landing. Transitioning from forward flight at speed back to landing has been tricky and just weird at times. While cruising around at 20" MP it seems to gradually lose manifold pressure until my throttle is firewalled and I also end up crabbing along in a left bank that seems extreme.  Applying pedal to stay on course in level bank seems to exacerbate things.  And it's a definite challenge to find any kind of sweet spot to maintain level altitude in forward fight without eventually porpoising back into climbing and diving at +/- 500fpm.  Hovering, hover-taxiing and doing nose-arounds around things like the control tower are great fun though.  Combining all of the above leads to an embarrassingly low survivability rate among my flights, between the loss of manifold pressure, touchy vertical speed control and bank angle in cruise, and general strangeness transitioning from cruise to low speed descent.  She doesn't fall out of the sky after 10 minutes as reported above, but instead just eventually wears me out - a sweetheart at low speeds but a screaming Banshee at sustained cruise.

The app settings aren't persistent for me either which is no big deal since I'm not seeing a ton of difference between flying it at 20% or 80% stability but am keeping with the recommended 80% sensitivity settings for cyclic and pedals.  I tried the "spring relax" options and certainly don't recommend them at this point unless you like rodeos, it just turned things into a bucking Bronco ride for me.

All in all I am still impressed and am sure stuff will get ironed out but for stick-and-rudder (anti-torque?) helo flying, the Bell 47 still reigns supreme for me at the moment.

Edited September 19, 20214 yr by Stoopy

5 hours ago, Sylle said:

Does the setting stick in the Airland app for you?

I have to move the sliders back again at every app restart…

Cheers,

Sylvain

No it's not.

Cool flick, auto rotation even, 1st lesson

 

On 9/19/2021 at 7:15 AM, Stoopy said:

 While cruising around at 20" MP it seems to gradually lose manifold pressure until my throttle is firewalled and I also end up crabbing along in a left bank that seems extreme. 

Yep I see this too.  

16 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

Yep I see this too.  

Thanks, good to know.  I think I'm going to go back to 20% on the flight model per the documentation  and see if its just something to do with higher realism not working quite right yet.

 

I haven't been able to get it to remember the slider settings either. 

I've got it at 100% and flying it feels pretty good to me with my home-made controllers and stuff.  It has the smooth inertia feel of the 47g but I find the r44 a little easier to fly. However, I'd imagine anyone trying to fly it with a regular joystick would still find it pretty frustrating.

Update is out! https://flightsim.to/file/20566/robinson-r44-raven-ii-helicopter-project

Looking better, sounding better and flying like a dream!   

All three helis updated within 24hrs but this is the one I'm most inclined to fly.  Really feeling great.

33 minutes ago, The Moose said:

All three helis updated within 24hrs but this is the one I'm most inclined to fly.  Really feeling great.

Fascinating - who'da thunk we'd be this fortunate.  I was thinking about this Fred Naar flight model and if it's really that good, perhaps Asobo could incorporate his work into the official code base for helo support much like they hired on Working Title for avionics improvements.  Then maybe we could get away from separate "helper" applications running in the background for different helos.  That is, if it works out to be better than what the FlyInside folks just released in their update yesterday, which will be tough to beat IMO just based on results of my flight around the pea patch with the B47 last night.  Still, looking forward to what the R44 update does to close that gap.

Great, last one to get updated. I had gone back to 100% instead of 60% or 20%. 100% works great for me. off to get the update.