What was I thinking?

[Ixoye 1,821]

Personally, I would have managed without this fix, I haven't noticed any difference at all, every bug that annoyed me before is still there.

[fppilot 4,371]

1 hour ago, Ixoye said:

Personally, I would have managed without this fix, I haven't noticed any difference at all, every bug that annoyed me before is still there.

Hope you enjoyed the "forced march" (update process) more than me....  😫

[Ixoye 1,821]

1 minute ago, fppilot said:

Hope you enjoyed the "forced march" (update process) more than me....  😫

Yea, I have the Steam version 😉

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

4 hours ago, odourboy said:

No joy with the FBW A32NX. Is there a working version? I'd take a download link if anyone's offering.

There is a massive thread about it ..

TLDR ->    not returning to marketplace - licensing issues - blah blah - lots of ranting and conspiracy theories by various idiots - XBox users feel they are being discriminated against etc etc

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/a32nx-will-not-be-returning-to-the-marketplace/454303

 

 

[Tuskin38 6,491]

4 hours ago, odourboy said:

No joy with the FBW A32NX. Is there a working version? I'd take a download link if anyone's offering.

https://flybywiresim.com/

[urthgental 181]

Wow, now we have personal rant threads. 
Nothing new, nothing to clarify, nothing to discuss.

[swiesma 625]

Thread number 200 whining about updates for a cloud based game. Welcome to the present. 
 

Was a 5min downtime for me. Opened MS Store, clicked update, waited 3mins, started FS. Done. 

Edited September 18, 2021 by swiesma

[cianpars 1,165]

What I am missing with all of these mandatory updates, is why it is not a simple case of switching on msfs and simply getting a message that it is being updated.  Why do we need to run and update the x box app? Why do we need to go to the microsoft store just to find that no update is available, why must we delete our community folder, rolling cache, manual cache, why do we have to reboot our pc before any of the above takes place, etc. And just to add further irritation, W10 needs to update at the same time.

How is it that beta testing doesn't find all of the things the updates are breaking before the rest of us do?

Do I even need to have both the x box app and the x box companion installed?

This time, I even had to try to run the game inside the x box app on the pc before the update even appeared - never had to do thst before - never even had the x box app before.

Surely all of the above should just happen when msfs starts up rather than sending users round in circles.

That said, msfs is a wonderful simulator and I'm having a lot of fun with it, but ms really needs to look at its update process - we shouldn't need a 50 page thread on here full of people complaining that they can't get the update every time an update happens.

[kenny584 77]

Launched the sim, got the update message, went to the store, got the update, installed the update, five minutes later I was flying. Some folks really do make things seem more difficult than they really are. Perhaps it is the way they have their system set up. Isn't it a bit strange that it is mainly the same people we see whining about the sim?

Blue Skies...Kenny.

[Dominique_K 10,144]

3 minutes ago, kenny584 said:

 Isn't it a bit strange that it is mainly the same people we see whining about the sim?

 

In flight simulation, specially with the ambulating mess that MSFS is, you are bound, one day or another, to be a whiner in the eyes of the uncharitable . There are pro in this thread. One day treating fellow simmers as stupid because they don't have a problem or don't accept that something can be important to the other guy which is unimportant to them or just do not understand what the problem is... . For all you know, the next week or month they have a snag of their own and come crying for help.. So let us not be too presumptuous 😁.

Another thing, personal computing is now about 55 years old, give or take a couple of years. There have been a lot of effort, constant efforts, to make software "fool proof". I know it is a bit of a Sisyphus endeavor. But still,  You would think that after all these years, Microsoft, no less, would market a game with fool proof updates and not the convoluted mess where you have to fetch it when it is compulsory. Kind of a contradiction here. 

[Glenn Fitzpatrick 3,798]

500 MB   update that installed in game in 30 to 40 seconds without going to the store -  or are we talking two different updates here ?

[SmokeDiddy 262]

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

500 MB   update that installed in game in 30 to 40 seconds without going to the store -  or are we talking two different updates here ?

I think you download the installer from the store and the update is triggered once you start the sim...something along those lines I think.  EDIT: Maybe you're system is downloading the MS Store updates automatically?  Mine MS Store is set only to update things when asked.

Edited September 18, 2021 by SmokeDiddy

[Bobsk8 12,723]

2 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

In flight simulation, specially with the ambulating mess that MSFS is, you are bound, one day or another, to be a whiner in the eyes of the uncharitable . There are pro in this thread. One day treating fellow simmers as stupid because they don't have a problem or don't accept that something can be important to the other guy which is unimportant to them or just do not understand what the problem is... . For all you know, the next week or month they have a snag of their own and come crying for help.. So let us not be too presumptuous 😁.

Another thing, personal computing is now about 55 years old, give or take a couple of years. There have been a lot of effort, constant efforts, to make software "fool proof". I know it is a bit of a Sisyphus endeavor. But still,  You would think that after all these years, Microsoft, no less, would market a game with fool proof updates and not the convoluted mess where you have to fetch it when it is compulsory. Kind of a contradiction here. 

I think the core problem in all this is Microsoft. Let's face it, many of the things they do cause trainwrecks, and this stupid store they have is a perfect example. There is no reason that any update in 2021 should require the user to twist themselves into a pretzel to apply the update. How the beta testers can see this, and not complain, is beyond me. I will never ever buy anything again from the MS Store, until they fix their issues. 

[Bobsk8 12,723]

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

500 MB   update that installed in game in 30 to 40 seconds without going to the store -  or are we talking two different updates here ?

Are you sure you got the total update, mine was two different updates of around 500 MB each, plus the content manager update. 

[Dominique_K 10,144]

8 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I think the core problem in all this is Microsoft. Let's face it, many of the things they do cause trainwrecks, and this stupid store they have is a perfect example. There is no reason that any update in 2021 should require the user to twist themselves into a pretzel to apply the update. How the beta testers can see this, and not complain, is beyond me. I will never ever buy anything again from the MS Store, until they fix their issues. 

WU6 and the three last HF were not beta-tested if I am not mistaken. SU5 was tested but common wisdom which for once might be true, is that the MFS team does not listen much to testers anyway.  Also, I am not sure that when an update is tested the download procedure is the same. 

Edited September 18, 2021 by Dominique_K