Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Adamski_NZ

How do I get rid of these butt-ugly static aircraft?

Recommended Posts

This is what I get at NZQN (Queenstown) - an Asobo airport:

nzqn-traffic-02-1350.jpg?dl=1

... they also show in the (excellent) new NZQN addon by Inibuilds - as they appear to be default Asobo statics - that are NOT affected in any way by user settings for AI traffic or ground aircraft.

It doesn't matter how I set traffic: 0% - 100%, Generic on or off -  I've tried every combination of every traffic-related setting. Air traffic live, AI, none, plus ground traffic - all at various percentages. These aircraft spawn no matter what.

Worse still, those two gates are flagged as apparently empty so, more often than not, you spawn on top of one of them - or your own AI-generated traffic doubles up with them.

Is there any way that thay can be disabled??


NZFSIM_Signature_257_60.png

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In the past, lots of airport designers included a tool to configure these kind of things, but for MSFS it seems they have abandoned this approach an we are stuck with these statics. Although they are sometimes very well made, they might interfere with AI traffic.

Too bad Asobo did not prepare for this and make these kind of options configurable within the sim. An option like "enable static aircraft at airports" setting that both Asobo and third parties could make use of would have been nice.


Flightsim rig:
PC: AMD 5900x with Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler | MSI X570 MEG Unify | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | Gigabyte Aorus Master RTX 3090 | Corsair RM850x | Fractal Define 7 XL
AV: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 monitor | Logitech Z906 speakers
Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo TQ | Stream Deck XL | TrackIR 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are addons available to replace these default Asobo static models with nicer and more realistic ones.


ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, GTX980, more in "About me" on my profile. 

support1.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Try this one

https://flightsim.to/file/7414/improved-ivao-altitude-x-csl-model-matching

Works for me.

And, btw, my airports are not empty.

Kind regards, Michael


MSFS, Beta tester of Simdocks, SPAD.neXt, and FS-FlightControl

Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel /  LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440  / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, pmb said:

Try this one

https://flightsim.to/file/7414/improved-ivao-altitude-x-csl-model-matching

Works for me.

And, btw, my airports are not empty.

Kind regards, Michael

Hi Michael,

Does it work with WU6 ? Some people reported invisible and blanc aircraft after WU6 ?

Regards, Gerard

  • Like 1

13900 8 cores @ 5.5-5.8 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.3 GHz (hyperthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D4 - GSkill Ripjaws 2x 16 Gb 4266 mhz @ 3200 mhz / cas 13 -  Inno3D RTX4090 X3 iCHILL 24 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Thermaltake Level 10 GT case - EKWB Extreme 240 liquid cooling set push/pull - 2x 55’ Sony 4K tv's as front view and right view.

13600  6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb  - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x  Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - 1x 65” Sony 4K tv as left view.

FOV : 190 degrees

My flightsim vids :  https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Hi Michael,

Does it work with WU6 ? Some people reported invisible and blanc aircraft after WU6 ?

Regards, Gerard

I didn't make deep testing, but I didn't see an change since WU6. I've seen no blank aircraft so far where I took off/landed.

Kind regards, Michael


MSFS, Beta tester of Simdocks, SPAD.neXt, and FS-FlightControl

Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel /  LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440  / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is one of my more interesting phenomena I have seen with our community.  When I fist saw these I had no doubt that a 'painter' or 'modder' would quickly provide replacement paints for these aircraft.  Well, it has been over a year and no one as yet done this which I find very strange.

I have posted about this several times on what I thought would be a very easy process but to no avail.  I have finally got it sorted but only after a lot of hacking and downloading.  Loading converters, other huge lists and liveries, selecting, trimming, renaming, copy/pasting.

I really dont want hundreds of liveries, I care not for AI real world flight paths, gate assignments, exact taxi paths, ect...  Literally I just wanted to change out the 4 default MS paints.  Yes, I finally got there but man, what a pain.

So, fundementally:

watch THIS video

  • install the 'megapak' installer
  • select only 4-5 of the A320 liveries that you like (not the hundreds that are presented for download)
  • copy the selected paints from the megapak planes to the default folder
Edited by Mike S KPDX
  • Like 2

CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB
MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro |  GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
58 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

This is one of my more interesting phenomena I have seen with our community.  When I fist saw these I had no doubt that a 'painter' or 'modder' would quickly provide replacement paints for these aircraft.  Well, it has been over a year and no one as yet done this which I find very strange.

While there are several alternative solutions (some named here) I agree: I neve thought these ugly default liveries would be more than a placeholder for a few months, at most. Those (like me) finding them inacceptable should remind MS/Asobo over and over they are not going to accept them as a long-term solution.

Kind regards, Michael


MSFS, Beta tester of Simdocks, SPAD.neXt, and FS-FlightControl

Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel /  LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440  / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know I don't really care about AI because I know they don't really behave.

What I would like to see are other player's aircraft with proper livery. I have so many beautiful planes in my Community folder, but I don't think anybody else ever sees them.

Can't we all submit to one location a list of the airplanes and liveries we have, and download a complete package of some sort that allows us to share ours and see others?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

This is one of my more interesting phenomena I have seen with our community.  When I fist saw these I had no doubt that a 'painter' or 'modder' would quickly provide replacement paints for these aircraft.  Well, it has been over a year and no one as yet done this which I find very strange.

I have posted about this several times on what I thought would be a very easy process but to no avail.  I have finally got it sorted but only after a lot of hacking and downloading.  Loading converters, other huge lists and liveries, selecting, trimming, renaming, copy/pasting.

I really dont want hundreds of liveries, I care not for AI real world flight paths, gate assignments, exact taxi paths, ect...  Literally I just wanted to change out the 4 default MS paints.  Yes, I finally got there but man, what a pain.

So, fundementally:

watch THIS video

  • install the 'megapak' installer
  • select only 4-5 of the A320 liveries that you like (not the hundreds that are presented for download)
  • copy the selected paints from the megapak planes to the default folder

Thank you, this is what I've been looking for, I hate those default liveries.


System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 32Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | LG Ultra Gear 34* UW |

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

This is one of my more interesting phenomena I have seen with our community.  When I fist saw these I had no doubt that a 'painter' or 'modder' would quickly provide replacement paints for these aircraft.  Well, it has been over a year and no one as yet done this which I find very strange.

I have posted about this several times on what I thought would be a very easy process but to no avail.  I have finally got it sorted but only after a lot of hacking and downloading.  Loading converters, other huge lists and liveries, selecting, trimming, renaming, copy/pasting.

I really dont want hundreds of liveries, I care not for AI real world flight paths, gate assignments, exact taxi paths, ect...  Literally I just wanted to change out the 4 default MS paints.  Yes, I finally got there but man, what a pain.

So, fundementally:

watch THIS video

  • install the 'megapak' installer
  • select only 4-5 of the A320 liveries that you like (not the hundreds that are presented for download)
  • copy the selected paints from the megapak planes to the default folder

Will this cause ATC to drop the constant reference to "Generic this aircraft", or "Generic that aircraft"?  LOL!

 


Frank Patton
MasterCase Pro H500M; MSI Z490 WiFi MOB; i7 10700k 3.8 Ghz; Gigabyte RTX 3080 12gb OC; H100i Pro liquid cooler; 32GB DDR4 3600;  Gold RMX850X PSU;
ASUS 
VG289 4K 27" Monitor; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Many thanks to all that suggested fixes. *However* - I think all of them deal with AI traffic, which I know can be persuaded to show different models.

The problem here, is that I think the two aircraft in question are *STATIC* objects - and remain totally unaffected by any AI/traffic tweaks (or settings). AI even thinks the gate is empty and places the [tweaked] AI models over the top of them:

nzqn-traffic-bug-05-1350.jpg?dl=1

.. and here's me in the DH89a, being "rogered" by the yellow pointy thing:

nzqn-traffic-bug-06-1350.jpg?dl=1

Open to more suggestions!!!

Adam.


NZFSIM_Signature_257_60.png

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Adamski_NZ said:

Many thanks to all that suggested fixes. *However* - I think all of them deal with AI traffic, which I know can be persuaded to show different models.

The problem here, is that I think the two aircraft in question are *STATIC* objects - and remain totally unaffected by any AI/traffic tweaks (or settings). AI even thinks the gate is empty and places the [tweaked] AI models over the top of them:

nzqn-traffic-bug-05-1350.jpg?dl=1

.. and here's me in the DH89a, being "rogered" by the yellow pointy thing:

nzqn-traffic-bug-06-1350.jpg?dl=1

Open to more suggestions!!!

Adam.

Have you follow Mike S KPDX suggestion? I think that tip changes the static planes on the ground, I will try that myself today.


System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 32Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | LG Ultra Gear 34* UW |

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, fppilot said:

Will this cause ATC to drop the constant reference to "Generic this aircraft", or "Generic that aircraft"?  LOL!

 

I do not know as I have never used the default ATC.  I utilize a third party package (Pilot2ATC)

  • Like 1

CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB
MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro |  GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
×
×
  • Create New...