2 hours ago, Noel said:

"Far too problematic", is diametrically opposed to my experience: never had a single issue there yet, including 3 virgin installs of MSFS, 7 purchases, all of which flawlessly installed.  Two were updated, those updates installed fine, so I can't relate at all to this sentiment.

Admittedly I have a lot more than 7 marketplace purchases and most have been OK (though stupidly late to get updates) but one or two have failed in a big way and were fixed by the 3PD developer - in one case giving me a free non-marketplace copy.

My issues however have been mild - here is an example of what some people have had to put up with:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/official-discussion-junkers-ju-52/458062/1134

My marketplace biggest issue is when there are problems they insist it is up to the 3PD to solve it but do not even give you a receipt that items your purchases so you can prove to the P3D you even own it.

As far as me supporting MS goes,  we have had new younger management take over at work the last 2 years who felt the need to "update" our enterprise to more modern Microsoft servers instead of the Linux and VMS we have used for 30 years and  move the staff over to MS Outlook, Teams etc telling anyone that was unhappy that they needed to get up to date and on the program -  and to say it has been a rolling disaster is an understatement.  We even spoke to our MS reps directly about some of our licencing CAS/CAL issues with converting stuff from VMS and Linux over to MS and they contacted their legal department and actually admitted they had no idea what licencing they need.

Overall, having a lot of dealings with Microsoft over the last 20 years at work, I would say they have to endemic structural issues. The first is they seem to have high staff turnover and you are often dealing with new bushy bright eyed tailed 20-something kids straight out of university with bright ideas about changing the way everything is done with no idea of the implications.  The second issue is they seem to deploy staff to tasks by role rather than to a specific project,  so no-one ever seems to see the big picture as they are all shifted randomly from one project to the next as their skills are needed.

 

Edited October 4, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

I'm somewhat driven by doing what I can to help MSFS survive, and if MS decides to throw in the towel on MSFS, then we'll all be looking elsewhere to satisfy our FS aspirations and quite frankly I never want to give Lockheed Martin another penny.  LR, perhaps but every version I've installed to sample sent me back to P3D.  You've undoubtly seen my unabashed apologist comments for MSFS while others are complaining about what's wrong with it I'm always contrasting w/ what's right with it.  It seems to me supporting the integrated Marketplace is another small way to help in this regard.  So again, 'supporting MS' itself is not so much the goal as supporting the survival of MSFS.

On 9/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, zonda12s said:

Great aircraft, nice tablet interface, systems and flight model. Good performance / frame rates too.  Worth full price so a bargain at discounted price.

Only down side, which is huge to me, is its not integrated with the FS20 flight planner.     Haven't used this plane in months because of that 

and likely wont buy another 3rd party plane without integration to the flight planner.

12 minutes ago, Oldschool61 said:

Only down side, which is huge to me, is its not integrated with the FS20 flight planner.     Haven't used this plane in months because of that 

and likely wont buy another 3rd party plane without integration to the flight planner.

You mean you can't create a flight in MSFS World Map and launch from there?  If so, no thanks for me.  Thank you kindly for bringing this up!

Just did a flight from Wellington to Queenstown with Orbx mesh. The scenery and weather/lighting conditions were  breathtaking. The only problem was that some of the waypoints of the RNAV Z approach into rwy 23 were missing. I have a Navigraph subscription. Has anybody else experienced this? 

1 hour ago, Oldschool61 said:

Only down side, which is huge to me, is its not integrated with the FS20 flight planner.     Haven't used this plane in months because of that 

and likely wont buy another 3rd party plane without integration to the flight planner.

No it is not.

It will however import Simbrief flight plans dropped into the designated folder into the FMS.

You do  still need to enter stuff like your Simbrief calculated fuel loads, weights, V speeds, number of passengers etc into the FMS yourself.  But at least Simbrief calculates them. With the MS Flight Planner you get a route and nothing else.

 

 

Edited October 4, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

10 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

No it is not.

It will however import Simbrief flight plans dropped into the designated folder into the FMS.

You do  still need to enter stuff like your Simbrief calculated fuel loads, weights, V speeds, number of passengers etc into the FMS yourself.  But at least Simbrief calculates them. With the MS Flight Planner you get a route and nothing else.

 

 

No, you don't need to enter anything in the FMS when importing from Simbrief. Make sure in the EFB options page (second page) that the setting for importing weights and fuel is checked.

I use Simbrief. Takes a minute to create the flight plan, then use the downloader, which automatically puts it in the right folder. Then specify your route in the FMS using the airports in flight plan (i.e. KDENKLAX) and you are good to go. Much faster this way.   

Edited October 4, 20214 yr by RobJC

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

No it is not.

It will however import Simbrief flight plans dropped into the designated folder into the FMS.

You do  still need to enter stuff like your Simbrief calculated fuel loads, weights, V speeds, number of passengers etc into the FMS yourself.  But at least Simbrief calculates them. With the MS Flight Planner you get a route and nothing else.

 

 

You select your fuel in the plane options very simple.  sim brief is just that, a BRIEF flight plan with plans that dont include routes that include ILS approaches.  The MSFS planner is simpler and superior.  Click on airport for departure.  Select ramp or runway or auto.  DO the same for arrival.  Select IFR then select specific runway for ILS landing assuming the airport has an ILS equipped runway.  Spawn and take off then

setup your auto pilot and your done.

15 minutes ago, RobJC said:

I use Simbrief. Takes a minute to create the flight plan, then use the downloader, which automatically puts it in the right folder. Then specify your route in the FMS using the airports in flight plan (i.e. KDENKLAX) and you are good to go. Much faster this way.   

No ILS approaches get input that I have ever seen.  They get you to the area of the area of the airport then you have to do visual  the rest of the way.

3 hours ago, Shack95 said:

Just did a flight from Wellington to Queenstown with Orbx mesh. The scenery and weather/lighting conditions were  breathtaking. The only problem was that some of the waypoints of the RNAV Z approach into rwy 23 were missing. I have a Navigraph subscription. Has anybody else experienced this? 

That is a complex RNP approach with multiple RF legs. The real CRJ is not capable of flying this kind of RNP procedure, and neither is the sim version. The RNP Z approaches for runway 05 and 23 at NZQN would not even appear in the FMS database of an actual CRJ. They do appear in the sim version because there is no easy way to filter them out of the database, but they will not load correctly, and the aircraft will not fly them correctly. 

The CRJ would be limited to the non-RNP RNAV (GNSS) F, G and H approaches, or the VOR-DME B or C for NZQN.

In fact, the only simulator avionics system that I know of that can fly a complex RNP procedure with 100 percent accuracy at this time is the new Garmin NXi found in MSFS. The current PMDG aircraft in P3D cannot, nor can the P3D FSL A320. I am hoping that the upcoming PMDG 737 for MSFS will have finally have full RNP support, and I suspect that the Fenix A320 will as well.

Edited October 4, 20214 yr by JRBarrett

9 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

That is a complex RNP approach with multiple RF legs…

Thanks a lot for your clarifications! I wasn‘t aware of that. Very interesting.

4 hours ago, Shack95 said:

Thanks a lot for your clarifications! I wasn‘t aware of that. Very interesting.

The CRJ can do a basic single RF turn (radius to fix), which might be the only component of an a particular RNP approach. There is a limited subset of RNP approach types for which the real CRJ is authorized. But, when the approach path is designed to precisely follow the contours of a winding valley as is the case at NZQN, or the three RNP approaches at VQPR (Paro, Bhutan), that is beyond the capabilities of the real CRJ autopilot and FMS.

Another approach in this category is the RNP runway 19 approach at KDCA (Washington National) which is designed to precisely follow the path of the Potomac River.

Basically, if you see the letters “AR” affixed to the approach identifier on the approach plate, or the words “authorization required” in the chart notes, it will be an approach that the sim CRJ will not be able to load or fly correctly.

16 hours ago, Oldschool61 said:

You select your fuel in the plane options very simple.  sim brief is just that, a BRIEF flight plan with plans that dont include routes that include ILS approaches.  The MSFS planner is simpler and superior.  Click on airport for departure.  Select ramp or runway or auto.  DO the same for arrival.  Select IFR then select specific runway for ILS landing assuming the airport has an ILS equipped runway.  Spawn and take off then

setup your auto pilot and your done.

And the freeware Heavy Division mod for 787-10 actually can use both Simbrief and the MSFS planner, but the $50 Aerosoft CRJ doesn't.  Bizarre....

42 minutes ago, Noel said:

And the freeware Heavy Division mod for 787-10 actually can use both Simbrief and the MSFS planner, but the $50 Aerosoft CRJ doesn't.  Bizarre....

I guess the answer in your case is just not to buy it.