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Xplane Next Generation (FSexpo)

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8 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

when I say mSparks has a different perception to many (most?) of us.

Obviously, most of you don't have

to compare against.

I'd say many just can't quite comprehend that "XP11 looks as good as MSFS", "MSFS looks terrible" and "XP11 looks terrible" in no way contradict each other.

8 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

The water reflections do look very good on that XP12 shot, but that lighting...no.

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reflection
noun
 
  1. 1.
    the throwing back by a body or surface of light, heat, or sound without absorbing it.
    "the reflection of light"

 

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My word this thread isn’t half full of some rubbish and pedantic stuff, all over a couple of computer games. 

I think Austin was hilarious but not a bad effort from Xplane. They need some serious work on their video presentation though. 

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19 minutes ago, rocketlaunch said:

I think Austin was hilarious but not a bad effort from Xplane. They need some serious work on their video presentation though. 

I see two common trends.

People complaining they didn't spend a fortune on a studio production. Personally I'm glad they didn't, but they could have put more effort into some of the audio recording quality.

People not understanding they gave a pretty comprehensive technology demonstration not a launch announcement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_demonstration

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Look at the lazy repetition in the scenery.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0wDm22hZSIs9Ci_E7RARkbZOg

 

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An absolute secondary and minor detail, but if you pay attention, you'll see that the ground vehicles will roll, squat and dive when turning, accelerating and braking:

 

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

I for one am wondering if XP12 with all of these changes, is going to require to squeeze out of my wallet, $2k worth of upgrades just to see trees moving, better lighting, better bodies of water, better clouds with the same old XP11 autogen and terrain graphics. I can fly the other sim with lots of eye-candy, awesome lighting effects, great cloud/weather coverage (with no sudden changes) and stunning world terrain graphics with my 5 year old rig and didn't have spent a dime.

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5 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

$2k worth of upgrades just to see trees moving

The trees were developed on a gtx1070.

See

For a pretty detailed discussion on hardware requirements already.

But the TLDR is a $400 steam gear should be enough if you are on hw feeling its age.

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50 minutes ago, Murmur said:

An absolute secondary and minor detail, but if you pay attention, you'll see that the ground vehicles will roll, squat and dive when turning, accelerating and braking:

 

I am not seeing anything new with the GSEs.  All these are present in XP11.

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4 minutes ago, Sims Smith said:

I am not seeing anything new with the GSEs.  All these are present in XP11.

Oh ok, I stand corrected.

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

Any particular reason you are commenting on the scenery in the weather tech demo rather than the scenery tech demo?

I didn't realize that the autogen's selection of structure-type was weather-dependent. If the glaringly repetitive autogen isn't part of X-Plane 12, then they shouldn't have included it in a demo labeled "X-Plane 12." So if the weather conditions are right, then some of the overly repetitive skyscrapers will turn into gas stations and Walmarts? I know people who literally watched this demo LIVE with their credit cards in hand, thinking they could order -- or at least pre-order -- X-Plane 12. Someone correct me if I'm wrong; but I don't think a release timeframe was even mentioned. X-Plane 12 reminds me of what frequently occurs with prizefighters who have passed their prime. They won't admit that they should gracefully go into retirement. No. They schedule one last fight where they embarrassingly get the life beat out of them. 

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Speaking of weather, here's X-Plane 12's super-duper rain-on-the-cockpit-window visualization. Honestly, it looks more like the plane is flying through a swarm of cicada.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/08YZ5rv_APdbnTKJXdcQt7Qeg

 

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