SimUpdate 6 beta has started

[Shack95 2,658]

Looking forward to this update, esp. fixed aliased menus and ingame panels in VR. That is really annoying when using charts.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Shack95

[Nyxx 6,993]

Dont you love it went someone quote and take 1/2 page up with what we have already read and add a one line reply.....🙄

Edited October 8, 2021 by Nyxx

[MarcG 2,935]

41 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Dont you love it went someone quote and take 1/2 page up with what we have already read and add a one reply.....🙄

Lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes!

 

 

 

[pmb 5,137]

1 hour ago, Shack95 said:

Looking forward to this update, esp. fixed aliased menus and ingame panels in VR. That was really annoying when using charts.

Agree. Frist, I was under the impression it's something the chart/map providers (FSKneeboard and friends) got wrong and asked them, but after seeing the same issue with all such programs I realized it must have been broken by the core sim.

Looking forward to the fix.

Kind regards, Michael

[autom8ter 10]

- Fixed a bug that prevented Live/AI aircrafts lights from showing

Hopefully this means I can fly on VatSim again at night.

[Shack95 2,658]

4 hours ago, pmb said:

Agree. Frist, I was under the impression it's something the chart/map providers (FSKneeboard and friends) got wrong and asked them, but after seeing the same issue with all such programs I realized it must have been broken by the core sim.

Me too. I use Navigraph charts and they‘re a real pixel fest at the moment.

[Drumcode 1,892]

so can the testers reveal if something was fixed in SU6 or not because of the NDA charade? 

[turbomax 3,269]

1 hour ago, Drumcode said:

not because of the NDA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OORBa32WFcM

Got a stalker walkin' up and down the street
Says he's Satan and he'd like to meet
I bought a secret house when I was seventeen (Ha)
Haven't had a party since I got the keys
Had a pretty boy over, but he couldn't stay
On his way out, made him sign an NDA, mm
Yeah, I made him sign an NDA

Edited October 8, 2021 by turbomax

[regis9 4,005]

On 10/6/2021 at 1:53 PM, RobJC said:

Fixed jetways not spawning in some cases

I wonder if this is fixing the jetway LOD issue introduced in SU5?  Seems like it could be and I’ve seen that addon developers don’t seem to be doing fixes for this issue themselves so perhaps they’re waiting for this?

[March Hare 720]

On 10/8/2021 at 3:23 PM, Drumcode said:

so can the testers reveal if something was fixed in SU6 or not because of the NDA charade? 

Charade? Everyone involved with a game's development and testing must sign a NDA. It isn't something MS are doing specifically for this, to cover something up.

[badgenes 125]

Love charades!  Ok, first syllable sounds like *points to glass of water*....second syllable sounds like *points to dashing fedora on head*.  Again, first syllable sounds like *points to heavy steel anvil on table*, second syllable like *points to large rodent scampering across the kitchen tile*...

 

Seriously as annoying as it might be if you play the game you agree to the rules and the rules of alpha and beta testing almost always include an NDA.  When you leak and are caught you forfeit the right to test again.  Kind of like breaking a contractual agreement to repay a large sum of money....

[HiFlyer 9,353]

1 minute ago, badgenes said:

Love charades!  Ok, first syllable sounds like *points to glass of water*....second syllable sounds like *points to dashing fedora on head*.  Again, first syllable sounds like *points to heavy steel anvil on table*, second syllable like *points to large rodent scampering across the kitchen tile*...

 

Seriously as annoying as it might be if you play the game you agree to the rules and the rules of alpha and beta testing almost always include an NDA.  When you leak and are caught you forfeit the right to test again.  Kind of like breaking a contractual agreement to repay a large sum of money....

Though I was just saying (someplace else) it seems like there is not really all that much to actually "test" if you read the release notes.

Since this update seems like 90% percent bugfixes' it appears almost  as if the only thing to really say is "Yes, working as expected now". or "No, still not working for me, for some reason".

 

[hansb57 492]

25 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Though I was just saying (someplace else) it seems like there is not really all that much to actually "test" if you read the release notes.

Since this update seems like 90% percent bugfixes' it appears almost  as if the only thing to really say is "Yes, working as expected now". or "No, still not working for me, for some reason".

 

Thats a little bit simplified. If testing would be that easy Asobo could do it itself.

Fixing a known bug can easlly trigger something else to break.

 

[turbomax 3,269]

2 hours ago, hansb57 said:

Thats a little bit simplified

a little bit very much even. 

WorkingTitle have said their G1000 NXi needs to be updated and a new version will release at the same time with SU6 final. it is not just "bugfixes" but also technical changes that also need to be tested and require changes in 3rd party addons. just one example.

"not really all that much to actually "test" reminds me of the famous quote from Sir Stanley Hooker's memoirs. in his job interview with Rolls Royce aircraft engines the interviewer made this remark about him: "not much of an engineer" 😀

"He retired from BAE in 1967 but came out of retirement four years later in 1971 to rescue Rolls-Royce from bankruptcy and successfully introduce the RB211 engine which became the platform for future Rolls-Royce engines and the success they are today. Sir Stanley Hooker was knighted in 1974 for his contribution to aero engine design and his roll in saving Rolls-Royce. he published his autobiography “Not much of an engineer” the title of which was a quip by the intimidating Hives at his lack of engineering qualifications during his interview at Rolls-Royce!"

https://zerowest.watch/sir-stanley-hooker/

Edited October 10, 2021 by turbomax

[HiFlyer 9,353]

16 minutes ago, turbomax said:

WorkingTitle have said their G1000 NXi needs to be updated and a new version will release at the same time with SU6 final. it is not just "bugfixes" but also technical changes that also need to be tested and require changes in 3rd party addons. just one example.

Fascinating......

And how does a non-developer, average user "test" any of that now? 🤨