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would really like the FSL 320 SL but 210 euro's?..

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2 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

I guess the new FSL Configurator is first step Ray

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I’m guessing it’s just a placeholder. A definitive statement is needed rather than us having to second guess.

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On 10/14/2021 at 1:29 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:

That’s news to me. Maybe I missed a statement in the Announcements section. Care to provide a link? They said shortly after MSFS was made public they would only do one 64-bit Concorde. I’ve seen nothing to change that.

Er, yes they do. I know one programmer who has given up their day job and is 100% employed by FSL.

I thought they had Ray. They were involved with the failed Dovetail 64 bit platform so I'd be very surprised if they didn't develop for MSFS. They certainly haven't ruled it out. I didn't see the Concorde announcement you refer to, but plans change in this industry on a regular basis so what they ruled out in 2020 may be back on the cards in the future. I was just musing about what might be possible, in relation to the topic which is the price of FSL's products.

As Michael said there's a menu for MSFS in the Control Center (though not one for P3Dv5) so it's a very strong hint it's in the current plan (but it might quietly disappear if that changes 😉). Not a definitive statement of course, but this isn't an official forum.

I didn't say no one was employed by FSL, but do you really think all the design team are 100% paid employees? Most work in their spare time as far as I'm aware. Given how many years the A320-X took to develop we're lucky that's the case.

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6 hours ago, kevinh said:

 

I didn't say no one was employed by FSL, but do you really think all the design team are 100% paid employees? Most work in their spare time as far as I'm aware.

I would think that softare developers are paid for all their work. Is it true that there are volunteers at work on a high end product like fsl320? I have no idea how this really works.

I can only imagine how many thousands of hours went into this product.

 

Well, my initial question was why this plane is so expensive and it turned into an interesting discussion.  Thanks for all the input guys (and girls maybe ;))

 

I have decided to buy this plane + sl version + avioworx cdu (couldn't get spacedesk to work)

Appreciate it.

 

cheers

Jozeff

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@kevinh,

I can only say what one employee told me at Cosford in October 2019. He was working 100% for FSL. No others were mentioned.

They may well be planning for MSFS but have made no official announcement on their forum. As for Concorde there have only been the odd sentence at the end of Airbus announcements. Nothing of any substance.

Why they won’t even show screenshots is baffling but like it or not that’s their policy.


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On 10/12/2021 at 9:42 PM, honanhal said:

they've already got a credible competitor who's promising to raise the Airbus bar at the same time as they cut the price in half -- oh, and release in the next few months.

Plus a freeware mod that’s everyday getting better aiming to reach a high fidelity level.


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On 10/11/2021 at 9:13 AM, honanhal said:

And how many copies of the Level D 767 do you think they’ve sold in the last few years?

FSL isn’t exactly in the same situation, but it is strange for the price to never come down for older software. The other day I saw that a software company was still selling the exact same piece of astronomy software from ~1993 (runs in DOS) at the exact same (high) price 30 years later. Probably not selling a lot of copies either. 🙂

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I am curious to know which astronomy software this is.....


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1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I am curious to know which astronomy software this is.....

Cristopher, you'll be pleased to know (you've reminded me!) it's in fact thanks to you that I read about Dance of the Planets when you mentioned it in a thread here. 🙂

https://arcscience.com/dance-of-the-planets/

$75, comes on CD-ROM. "A most singular PC planetarium program. DOS legacy software last updated in 1994. Remarkably, we still sell it. The reason is that even still, it’s the only real time animation of the solar system brought to life on the screen by simulating gravity. It is the most complex working model of the solar system ever created."

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On 10/17/2021 at 9:08 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

@kevinh,

I can only say what one employee told me at Cosford in October 2019. He was working 100% for FSL. No others were mentioned.

They may well be planning for MSFS but have made no official announcement on their forum. As for Concorde there have only been the odd sentence at the end of Airbus announcements. Nothing of any substance.

Why they won’t even show screenshots is baffling but like it or not that’s their policy.

Ray,

It would be nice if they were more definite but Lefteris is playing his cards close to his chest. Anyway that's a matter for the official forum. Not this thread. What I said in passing about Concorde was just speculation on my part.

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On 10/17/2021 at 7:13 AM, jozeff said:

I would think that softare developers are paid for all their work. Is it true that there are volunteers at work on a high end product like fsl320? I have no idea how this really works.

I can only imagine how many thousands of hours went into this product.

 

Well, my initial question was why this plane is so expensive and it turned into an interesting discussion.  Thanks for all the input guys (and girls maybe ;))

 

I have decided to buy this plane + sl version + avioworx cdu (couldn't get spacedesk to work)

Appreciate it.

 

cheers

Jozeff

Hi Jozeff,

They're all enthusiasts, that's why they are prepared to put in the hours in their spare time. I expect they all get a share of sales revenue but as you say it's likely that thousands of hours are involved and that would be a huge cost at typical software developer rates.

You might want to start with just the A320 base model. When the sharklets expansion was released FSL said the EFB will eventually be added to the non SL versions in a future update (no timescale was given though). So you could end up getting the EFB at no extra cost. The EFB is a useful addition but not central to the simulation.


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1 hour ago, kevinh said:

Ray,

It would be nice if they were more definite but Lefteris is playing his cards close to his chest. Anyway that's a matter for the official forum. Not this thread. What I said in passing about Concorde was just speculation on my part.

Kevin, I’m convinced that if you wrote to MI5 / MI6 you’d get more info out of them as to what their current priorities are. Even asking on their forum will get you nowhere and some posts have been removed. Apart from what Andrew said earlier on another topic the wall of silence remains intact.

We’re all free to speculate. 😉

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while i´m waiting for the p3d v5 concorde I watch Airport 80 The Concorde 🙂

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