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I have three Microcenter's within an hour's drive.   All three have the 12900k in stock for $549.

All three have the 12700k @ 299,  and the 12600k @ 229.

I bought a 12900k from them 3 weeks ago,  there were plenty on the shelves and still are.

They have 25+ 5900x @ 449,  and 16 5950x @ 669.

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2 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

No need to spend extra on a 12900K, a 12700K or even the i5 12600K will do the job without sweating. From what I read on the reviews, the 12900K runs a lot hotter then the other two.

If you use a single monitor, being it 2K or 4K, a 12700k will be more than enough.

Myself, I have a 2x 4K front view and then a 12900K will deliver that bit of extra. 

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2 minutes ago, Waldo Pepper said:

All three have the 12700k @ 299

wow that is quite a price, I can't find it anywhere below 400


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2 minutes ago, GSalden said:

If you use a single monitor, being it 2K or 4K, a 12700k will be more than enough.

Good point!


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2 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

I have three Microcenter's within an hour's drive.   All three have the 12900k in stock for $549.

All three have the 12700k @ 299,  and the 12600k @ 229.

I bought a 12900k from them 3 weeks ago,  there were plenty on the shelves and still are.

They have 25+ 5900x @ 449,  and 16 5950x @ 669.

Ah the little piece of hardware heaven where you can probably still get something at a decent price.

I had a build i had to complete for my little brother this year. I needed a decent graphics card .. I had all the parts except the card and had settled into thinking i wouldnt get a card for a couple of months. I'm a cyclist and had signed up for 6Gap in Georgia and was staying in the Atlanta area for that weekend. On a whim i thought to myself.. hmm i wonder if a microcenter was close? found out there were 2 in the area.. Woke up early Saturday and headed out. No line ..walked in nonchalantly when they opened and they had a whole freaking case of graphics cards all within reasonable prices. I don't think i ever whipped out a credit card so fast. Felt like i won the lottery!!

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Just bought a 12900k, with a ROG Strix Z690 motherboard and 32 GB of 4400 Patriot Viper DDR4.  Looking to build it over the holiday.  My M2 drives and 3080Ti will slot right in. 

It will be difficult to keep my hands off it until the holiday.   I already have the RAM and processor in the board. :laugh: 

I just hope my AIO water cooler will fit the board (securing holes).  It is coming of an 8086K  (basically an 8900k).

This will be quite a jump for me in terms of processor.  I know MSFS is now GPU limited on my 3080Ti at 4k ultra settings, but it will be interesting to see if the new 12900k and quicker RAM improves anything - loading times at least!

PS.  I notice no improvement between DDR4 and DDR5 in MSFS at 4k in the video above.  I went for a DDR4 board as I was going to use my old 3600 RAM, but saw the 4400 at an excellent price and it had good reviews, so I snaffled it. 
DDR5 is expensive and still needs to settle down a bit.  I tend to build a new PC about every 3 years, so I will take a look at it then.  Until then, I can't see this DDR4 4400 at 19 timings being too restrictive.

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8 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Just bought a 12900k, with a ROG Strix Z690 motherboard and 32 GB of 4400 Patriot Viper DDR4.  Looking to build it over the holiday.  My M2 drives and 3080Ti will slot right in. 

It will be difficult to keep my hands off it until the holiday.   I already have the RAM and processor in the board. :laugh: 

I just hope my AIO water cooler will fit the board (securing holes).  It is coming of an 8086K  (basically an 8900k).

This will be quite a jump for me in terms of processor.  I know MSFS is now GPU limited on my 3080Ti at 4k ultra settings, but it will be interesting to see if it improves anything - loading times at least!

You might find the holes to be spaced differently coming straight off your 8086 board. Look into that and if so see if you can get an adapter for the cooler.

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18 minutes ago, 40track said:

You might find the holes to be spaced differently coming straight off your 8086 board. Look into that and if so see if you can get an adapter for the cooler.

Cheers!  Looking at the board now. 

Looks like I might be lucky.  The holes seem to be 75mm centres on the new and the old board.  The hole pitch looked oblong at first rather than square on the new board, but it was an optical illusion due to the oblong processor slot for the 12900k.

Edit:  Ah!  the hole centres aren't the problem.  Looks like it needs a spacer / standoff.  Only a few pounds though. 

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14 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Cheers!  Looking at the board now. 

Looks like I might be lucky.  The holes seem to be 75mm centres on the new and the old board.  The hole pitch looked oblong at first rather than square on the new board, but it was an optical illusion due to the oblong processor slot for the 12900k.

Good to know. That is the only issue with most aircoolers i.e Noctua which prevented me from the upgrade.

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Just now, 40track said:

Good to know. That is the only issue with most aircoolers i.e Noctua which prevented me from the upgrade.

Yes.  I just edited my post above as it looks like it needs a standoff for the support bracket according to the Corsair site.  £1.99 and free delivery.  Future kits to have 1700 socket support out of the box.  :smile:

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I like to fool airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio!

Intel i9 12900k in a ROG Strix Z690 D4 motherboard with water cooling, EVGA RTX 3080Ti Ultra, 32 GB DDR4 RAM 3800 CL15, 4 x Samsung 1 TB NVME M.2, with MSFS on a Samsung 980 pro PCIE4 (7000 gb/s).

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Just now, bobcat999 said:

Yes.  I just edited my post above as it looks like it needs a standoff for the support bracket according to the Corsair site.  £1.99 and free delivery.  Future kits to have 1700 socket support out of the box.  :smile:

Oh ok. Yeah LGA 1700 is elongated as you mentioned. Good ram specs though you should near equal the DD5-6000 Ram. Ill wait also till DDR5 is optimised and also not handing down my 11900k just yet as to standoff issue on coolers.

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15 minutes ago, 40track said:

Oh ok. Yeah LGA 1700 is elongated as you mentioned. Good ram specs though you should near equal the DD5-6000 Ram. Ill wait also till DDR5 is optimised and also not handing down my 11900k just yet as to standoff issue on coolers.

Sure.  Corsair list the centres as 78mm actually, but I notice on my old board and the new 1700 socket the holes are slightly elongated / slotted.

Just found the Corsair socket 1700 adapter standoffs on the UK website for £2.99 actually (inflation! :rolleyes:).  Good job you started me off looking at this, or I might have been a disappointed little boy with no toy to play with at Christmas! :biggrin:

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