Clouds at Ground Level in SU7

[David Mills 4,723]

I've seen this issue mentioned peripherally in other threads. But I thought this problem deserves a thread of its own.

Have you experienced any instances of clouds at ground level since SU7? Personally, my home airport is almost 800 feet above sea level, and I start out every flight now in a fog of clouds so thick that I can't see the end of the runway ahead of me. These clouds at ground level only seem to be a problem when using Real World Weather. If I instead select "Few Clouds" or "Broken Clouds", etc. the clouds are injected into the sim at their proper altitudes.

[Bobsk8 12,499]

Just now, David Mills said:

I've seen this issue mentioned peripherally in other threads. But I thought this problem deserves a thread of its own.

Have you experienced any instances of clouds at ground level since SU7? Personally, my home airport is almost 800 feet above sea level, and I start out every flight now in a fog of clouds so thick that I can't see the end of the runway ahead of me. These clouds at ground level only seem to be a problem when using Real World Weather. If I instead select "Few Clouds" or "Broken Clouds", etc. the clouds are injected into the sim at their proper altitudes.

Here is a picture I just posted on another thread. When I took off , at around 400 ft AGL I climbed out of this cloud to a clear sky. This was at LFRG

 

[Alvega 2,119]

5 minutes ago, David Mills said:

I've seen this issue mentioned peripherally in other threads. But I thought this problem deserves a thread of its own.

Have you experienced any instances of clouds at ground level since SU7? Personally, my home airport is almost 800 feet above sea level, and I start out every flight now in a fog of clouds so thick that I can't see the end of the runway ahead of me. These clouds at ground level only seem to be a problem when using Real World Weather. If I instead select "Few Clouds" or "Broken Clouds", etc. the clouds are injected into the sim at their proper altitudes.

 

Yes, it's a bug with cloud layers at wrong altitudes.

You can vote here so they can fix it: 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/are-cloud-bases-in-new-metar-system-in-agl-or-msl/473011

[John Fields 279]

Hi,

Yes, I pointed out yesterday in another thread that the clouds were very low when you selected Live Weather. 

I think it is a bug.

Regards.

 

 

 

[Bobsk8 12,499]

1 minute ago, Alvega said:

 

Yes, it's a bug with cloud layers at wrong altitudes.

You can vote here so they can fix it: 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/are-cloud-bases-in-new-metar-system-in-agl-or-msl/473011

I am enroute now and no haze at all......

 

😀

[jschaper 25]

Same issue here. I’m in the Netherlands, so at sea level and every flight I tried here or in the countries around me has started in a cloud. Fog everywhere, but mo mention of it in the metar. Definitely not correct.

Jack

[RTK1972 288]

And i thought it is fog that moves over the ground. Had this in the morning at ESSA and i was really like wow…

[RandallR 444]

In all of the flights I've done since the update, none of the destination cloud base/visibility has been correct.  In all cases, the fields in the RW were within acceptable IFR conditions, but the inappropriate haze, fog and much lower cloud bases in the sim (including all the way to the ground) ruined all of the flights for me.

I will give them kudos for finally nailing surface winds and having ATC actually respond with appropriate runway assignments.  And, the fog and haze is graphically much more realistic.  The problem is, the sim is now putting low vis and cloud bases where they don't exist.

[fppilot 4,339]

2 hours ago, David Mills said:

If I instead select "Few Clouds" or "Broken Clouds", etc. the clouds are injected into the sim at their proper altitudes.

Proper just by cloud type?  Are they at proper altitudes relative to any measure of actual weather in the area or region?

Edited November 20, 2021 by fppilot

[fppilot 4,339]

2 hours ago, Alvega said:

Yes, it's a bug with cloud layers at wrong altitudes.

It is a problem period!  How can clouds be at wrong altitudes if the Live Weather conditions reported are Clear.  Not talking about the MSFS Clear Skies setting.  Talking instead about this situation occurring when all Metars for airports within 200 miles are saying clear and 10 miles visibility.  Such as when I flew into KDAL (Dallas Love) early this afternoon.  Live weather was Clr few at 25,000, 20/11, 10 miles visibility.   I did not have the runway until 1 3/4 miles out.  That is not a wrong altitude issue.  There should have been no cloud layer.

This may be multiple issues.

Edited November 20, 2021 by fppilot