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I don't recall this happening this time last year because I don't think snow was implemented unless it was currently snowing in live weather.  I flew out of KMSP (default) and KEGE and KDTW the day before and the airport ground was completely white everywhere.  It was very difficult to see the taxiways and even the runway .  Is this a new feature that doesn't look right?  It basically looked like white cement.  Once airborne the snow looked good, but on the ground it didn't even look like snow.  I don't recall seeing that at any payware airports.  Anyone else getting this?

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Yes, although I think it's quite overdone but that's me just being picky. I mean when flying above it looks like a blizzard just came through the area - roads covered in snow, basically everything - and yes runways too.

I think if it is currently snowing that's fine to have EVRERYTHING covered in snow, as plows or the sun cannot melt that snow on the streets that fast. But if it is not snowing AND there is snow cover in the area detected, I wonder if Asobo could remove snow from the ROADS and the RUNWAYS/Taxiways? Again me being picky, and this is definitely something minor IMO compared to what needs to be done in other areas of the sim.

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39 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

Anyone else getting this?

It might depend on the ground texture but as far as I remember it‘s been like that since the implementation of snow, also at some payware airports (eg KDCA). I agree, snow-covered roads and taxiways (and frozen rivers and lakes for that matter) don‘t look very convincing. I‘d rather have snowless roads personally.

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Contrary to what is being said in this thread, I like the fact that a least we have a simulator that does not require third party software to depict snow, too much or too little is fine with me, I'm sure it will be tweaked down the road.

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11 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

I'm sure it will be tweaked down the road

Probably in the seasons update. I‘m not complaining. For a first iteration it‘s certainly good, and I‘m glad I don‘t need any addons for this too. 

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For me It depends strongly on the airports how the snow areas are depicted. What I find more irritating is the glaring whiteness of photogrammitry buildings of some cities.

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25 minutes ago, FlightSimToday said:

I departed KSYR the other night in the snow. I was not even on the taxiway at first.

Yeah, so overdone you can’t taxi without a moving-map GPS. 

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Will get better over time I hope.  This was over the weekend just north of Lafayette, Indiana, with a heading of 172°.  That is not an ocean ahead.  It is an abrupt end to the snow cover.  Past that line the terrain was as green as mid-Spring.

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I've arrived Bergen yesterday for the first time in MSFS and I couldn't see any TWY lines and RWY boundardies as it was just a plain white surface.
This really needs to be adressed by Asobo, because it makes flying in winter conditions almost impossible.

Flying at night is also not possible atm due to floating and disappearing RWY and TWY lights, so I can only use MSFS in non-freezing and daytime conditions and this sucks!

 

FlyTampa had really good winter textures back in P3D and I'd be perfectly happy if MSFS would use just very slight winter texturing.

 

In real life, if there's snowfall, snow is removed from all surfaces asap and if I had to guess, NA or EU airline pilots encounter RWYs covered in thick snow like it is in MSFS just a few times every winter, so... 🤷‍♀️

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This is KORD in the USA by FSDreamTeam. These snow textures are done by the developers themselves I guess?

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2 hours ago, fppilot said:

It is an abrupt end to the snow cover.  Past that line the terrain was as green as mid-Spring.

That is pretty abrupt.  I have seen some cases where the snow gradually gets thinner/more shallow before going totally green but it probably comes down to the data?


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I dont fly to places that North because of this. The taxiways and ramps are all white. The scenery, buildings and roads are all white. It just looks bad to me. For some reason the jaggies appear worse and the scenery looks FSX like in quality. Like many effects it's way over done. Outside of the snow areas it looks fab!

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15 minutes ago, regis9 said:

That is pretty abrupt.  I have seen some cases where the snow gradually gets thinner/more shallow before going totally green but it probably comes down to the data?

Or the implementation.


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For default airports the snow cover on movement areas is based on the color of the surface.  Darker runways have less snow and whiter runways have all the snow.  

Obviously at big airports the runways will be plowed even during a storm, but at smaller uncontrolled airports it's common to not see a runway cleared for a few days after a storm (at least up here in the Midwest).

Hopefully they can model this someday - or just clear all snow off works for me.


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