PMDG update[11 jan]

[Keirtt 574]

6 minutes ago, Jeff Nielsen said:

All due respect to SeedyL, I don't think he's really the one to talk to....lol.  He's just trying to help.  It sounds like PMDG is already talking to ASOBO, they're just getting the answer they need.  They may not be understanding what they want and how to implement it.

I'll agree with that. I find it rather odd to be honest. I'm trying to make a point on the MSFS forums that seems to be over a few folks head about why the CM reached out to begin with. The communication has supposedly been open to the point where Randazzo makes it seem like they have each others numbers. The CM post is what I would expect to receive if they were reaching out to me as a consumer, not a high profile dev. Seedy was probably trying to be helpful, but it just adds to the level of odd.

[RichUK 474]

Randazzo has always run his mouth. That is what he does. Calling out Asobo like he did in the forums is probably not the best thing to do, but that is who he is. We can all speculate all we like about what is happening there behind the scenes. Some are more qualified to do that than others.

 

[JBDB-MD80 1,470]

Maybe Randazzo needs to talk to a higher authority like Jorg Neumann maybe even try Phil Spencer to get guys at Asobo moving a little faster on his requests. Lets see how that works out.

Edited January 16, 2022 by jbdbow1970

[sightseer 895]

my desire to buy anything PMDG has dropped 10 points (at least)

[RichUK 474]

17 minutes ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Maybe Randazzo needs to talk to a higher authority like Jorg Neumann maybe even try Phil Spencer to get guys at Asobo moving a little faster on his requests. Lets see how that works out.

Yeah, you would think given Randazzo's 'place' in the community he would talk to Jorg once in a while.

Maybe it's a case of - who's calling me at this hour? Oh word not allowed, it's Randazzo...click...

[Keirtt 574]

6 minutes ago, RICHUK said:

Yeah, you would think given Randazzo's 'place' in the community he would talk to Jorg once in a while.

Maybe it's a case of - who's calling me at this hour? Oh word not allowed, it's Randazzo...click...

Jorg when Rob calls hahaha

Edited January 16, 2022 by Keirtt

[RichUK 474]

3 minutes ago, Keirtt said:

Jorg when Rob calls hahaha

LOL

[micstatic 4,297]

47 minutes ago, sightseer said:

my desire to buy anything PMDG has dropped 10 points (at least)

I'm not one for RSR's technique either, I wouldn't let anything like this influence my desire to buy a product.  I use a ton of products where companies say all sorts of things that bother me.  In the end, I separate that from the product itself.  

[threexgreen 3,133]

What's making this all seem pretty bizarre to me is that I recall that PMDG were made an official partner of Asobo/MS not long ago. Regardless of whether that's just a marketing thing or not, you would think things would be more in line between them.

[RichUK 474]

8 minutes ago, threegreen said:

What's making this all seem pretty bizarre to me is that I recall that PMDG were made an official partner of Asobo/MS not long ago. Regardless of whether that's just a marketing thing or not, you would think things would be more in line between them.

Maybe they need relationship counselling. 

[March Hare 720]

9 minutes ago, threegreen said:

you would think things would be more in line between them.

They can only be in line up to a point. If Asobo are saying that PMDG need to do things differently now, but PMDG are hung up on the past and the way they used to do things, then they aren't going to be on the same page -- one that PMDG will need to turn to.

Yes, that's as much speculation as the rest of what's here...

But I took something from Randazzo's forum post, when he said "if we are right" that the sim needs a fix... Well, maybe they aren't right. We don't know, and even if he stops being vague about it, we still won't know because we don't know Asobo's code. But his comment implies to me that Asobo have responded and he doesn't agree with the answer(s), which only means Asobo don't agree with him, not that he's right.

Well, either way, it seems that Asobo are at a disadvantage here, because they don't have a public voice, whereas Randazzo can make as many vague, negative statements as he wants in forum posts. It will be interesting to see if the Asobo guys are able to make comments in an upcoming Q&A, or if Jorg will do all the talking, or if it will even come up at all ... It'll be weird if Randazzo makes another appearance in MS's video update but he sings a sweeter song.

[RichUK 474]

10 minutes ago, March Hare said:

It'll be weird if Randazzo makes another appearance in MS's video update but he sings a sweeter song.

Then we would all know that Jorg privately threatened Randazzo with a system update right around the release date of the 737.

[Kilo60 660]

1 hour ago, threegreen said:

What's making this all seem pretty bizarre to me is that I recall that PMDG were made an official partner of Asobo/MS not long ago. Regardless of whether that's just a marketing thing or not, you would think things would be more in line between them.

 

Not when Aboso is prioritizing the Xbox system for this game and gearing it toward the casual console market!  

 

A Study level 3rd party add-on AC, that costs more than the casual gamer will spend (while playing this on Game Pass) is obviously not something Aboso care about spending time and resources on and I think Randazzo's frustration basically called them out on it!

 

 

 

Edited January 16, 2022 by Kilo60

[DaWu 779]

Very unprofessional what that pmdg guy is doing. It doesn’t do pmdg any favor of any kind 

[a321 207]

19 minutes ago, DaWu said:

Very unprofessional what that pmdg guy is doing. It doesn’t do pmdg any favor of any kind 

It also does ASOBO no favours having no decent fully completed Airliners, I mean Rob is saying that he has no communication for over 100 days!
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/upcoming-pmdg-737-discussion/423051/456
 

Read the screen shots in the post! That's crazy, what do you expect him to do? ASOBO needs PMDG way more than PMDG needs ASOBO that is for sure!