PMDG Update: PMDG 737 now "unstuck" after talks with Asobo

[ahsmatt7 1,199]

2 hours ago, GSalden said:

FYI : I already fly a study level ac in MSFS since January 2021….

Imho PMDG is not the first, but they surely might help with pushing Asobo to enhance the SDK/Simconnect.

Which one is that?

 

[B777ER 2,484]

On 1/23/2022 at 8:41 AM, omarsmak30 said:

although that is very good news, however, the development of PMDG 737 sometimes feels like an annoying drama with multiple seasons lol

That's just typical PMDG. Announce products or product updates and then wait 5 years or more for them to show up. GFO, LNAV, 777 VC, the list goes on and on. 

[a321 207]

3 hours ago, GSalden said:

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But it is not in MSFS yet? At least make that clear. if this is the Fenix bus then it is not out! so no point in saying it is or you fly it...So what the rest of us dont, we have no idea what state it is in. It is an external system, not done in MSFS and I bet they are having a great time getting the data in and out of MSFS. 

This is standalone as they say on the site!
 

Edited January 24, 2022 by a321

[pilatuz 141]

3 hours ago, B777ER said:

That's just typical PMDG. Announce products or product updates and then wait 5 years or more for them to show up. GFO, LNAV, 777 VC, the list goes on and on. 

Seriously. GFO was the most frustrating thing I let myself get excited for from PMDG.. definitely learned to take RSRs updates with a grain of sea salt.

[GSalden 4,656]

1 hour ago, a321 said:

But it is not in MSFS yet? At least make that clear. if this is the Fenix bus then it is not out! so no point in saying it is or you fly it...So what the rest of us dont, we have no idea what state it is in. It is an external system, not done in MSFS and I bet they are having a great time getting the data in and out of MSFS. 

This is standalone as they say on the site!
 

This is the Prosim 737-800 Cockpit Suite :

 

This is for cockpit builders and used in Flightsim trainers.

There is a flightmodel with liveries and 2D panels for everyone who has not a complete hardware cockpit.

Price : € 1500 + VAT ……….

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But let’s go back to PMDG

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by GSalden

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

So I ask again: What was the issue that held up production over at PMDG that now has been resolved? 

[RichUK 474]

9 minutes ago, GSalden said:

This is the Prosim 737-800 Cockpit Suite :

 

This is for cockpit builders and used in Flightsim trainers.

There is a flightmodel with liveries and 2D panels for everyone who has not a complete hardware cockpit.

Price : € 1500 + VAT ……….

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But let’s go back to PMDG

 

That is much cheaper than I thought. I paid more for the for the G1000. Not sure why I was expecting it to be more. Anyway..PMDG...yes..

[WestAir 2,522]

32 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

So I ask again: What was the issue that held up production over at PMDG that now has been resolved? 

None of us will ever know. PMDG has been very careful not to outright say what it was.

[Viper714 26]

46 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

So I ask again: What was the issue that held up production over at PMDG that now has been resolved? 

Nobody really knows but the Boeing testing package is installed as a tribute to continued forward progress.  https://fselite.net/content/pmdg-now-unstuck-with-development-issues-with-the-737-for-msfs/

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by Viper714

[JDWalley 354]

On 1/24/2022 at 4:59 AM, RICHUK said:

It is the soap opera 'Randazzo street'. New episode every week. The Christmas special proved popular with folks discussing Christmas vacation differences in different countries.

As The Robert Turns

[Pastaiolo 1,688]

On 1/24/2022 at 9:34 PM, Andreas Stangenes said:

So I ask again: What was the issue that held up production over at PMDG that now has been resolved? 

Something they were not very eager to talk about in the over 4 announcements in a few weeks they did 😛

[threexgreen 3,138]

On 1/24/2022 at 2:29 PM, abrams_tank said:

This excludes projects that don't plant to release on the X-Box like the Fenix A320.  It appears if the 3rd party dev does not plan to release on X-Box, they can use an architecture like Fenix, where most of the systems are simulated in an external process, rather than interfacing with the MSFS SDK.

... which makes me wonder what implications developing without external processes might have. I do not intend to go too far with the speculation here, but since many aspects of addon aircraft from the likes of PMDG, FSL, etc. rely on external processes to overcome limitations of the sim platform, I think it's a valid question.

For example, PMDG use external processes to model the taxi and engine behavior realistically. iFly do not use external processes (at least not in this regard according to the developer) and thus their 737 for P3D uses the unrealistic P3D friction model and engine spool behavior. With all the talk about the SDK and having read something about ground model deficits in MSFS I wonder if developing with the Xbox in mind might come with some limitations or if the SDK supports these aspects realistically or if PMDG are able to utilize external processes for the PC version and limit only the Xbox version somewhat within this constraint.

We'll know when we see it, but it's worrying me a little bit.

[DeepestRed 214]

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Edited January 26, 2022 by DeepestRed
Mispost.

[FAZZ3 815]

So what I’ve gathered from the latest qna is, Randazzo is being a whiny drama queen like we all had anticipated.

Seb explained that the issue was not really an issue but rather a miscommunication as it was an extremely simple fix. Randazzo touted this issue as being a platform wide issue that held their development for months. 

Jorg mentioned that PMDG has direct discord access with the SDK team, and that they literally talk everyday. For Randazzo to come out and say they’ve been ignored for months was laughable.

Jorg ended by saying ‘he stands up for the SDK team’ as they’ve been trying to do their best to not only improve the SDK but also be as accommodating as possible to third party devs.

 

[OneOfMany 314]

Miscommunication. The cornerstone of internet-based interaction. Something that can take two minutes in person taking dozens of back and forth typing sessions. 

word not allowed I miss those times. 

Edited January 26, 2022 by OneOfMany
Clarification. What else?