March 15, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, ark said: Kidding aside, if a pilot knows to expect the nose drop when the AP is disconnected, then the problem can be well mitigated, much like the pitch changes you get in some a/c with gear and/or flap extension. Agreed. So okay, this may be a bug but it never bothered me at all apart from the first few times I experienced it. I have a button on my joystick assigned to AP disengage (almost on the same spot as where it is in the plane!) and whenever I press that button during a landing I almost automatically pull the stick back a little: no nose drop AT ALL. Once you know how to deal with this is is extremely easy to deal with it. It only is a problem if you don't know about it and/or of you refuse to do the work of a pilot.
March 15, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, tup61 said: Agreed. So okay, this may be a bug but it never bothered me at all apart from the first few times I experienced it. I have a button on my joystick assigned to AP disengage (almost on the same spot as where it is in the plane!) and whenever I press that button during a landing I almost automatically pull the stick back a little: no nose drop AT ALL. Once you know how to deal with this is is extremely easy to deal with it. It only is a problem if you don't know about it and/or of you refuse to do the work of a pilot. It's not "the work of a pilot" to overcome a weirdiness of a system in a given aircraft... More like "the work of a test pilot", which will help to iron it before it get's to certification. Do you believe a real AP / Kodiak performs that way ? No for sure... So, yes it's a BUG and should be fixed.... P.S.: I do not own this add-on... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
March 15, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, jcomm said: It's not "the work of a pilot" to overcome a weirdiness of a system in a given aircraft... More like "the work of a test pilot", which will help to iron it before it get's to certification. Do you believe a real AP / Kodiak performs that way ? No for sure... So, yes it's a BUG and should be fixed.... P.S.: I do not own this add-on... You are right, of course, but what I meant to say is that I don't really understand why some (or one) people make such a fuzz about it. It's not a show stopper or anything. Of course it's a pity the bug hasn't been fixed yet but I'm sure it will be fixed in time. And with 'the work of a pilot' I meant to say it's his (or her) job to make sure the plane doesn't crash: if something unforseen or unexpected happens it's the pilot's job to take care of it. I am sure there are real world pilots out there that have to deal with some odd things in certain planes on a daily basis. As ark already said: "much like the pitch changes you get in some a/c with gear and/or flap extension".
March 15, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, tup61 said: You are right, of course, but what I meant to say is that I don't really understand why some (or one) people make such a fuzz about it. It's not a show stopper or anything. Of course it's a pity the bug hasn't been fixed yet but I'm sure it will be fixed in time. And with 'the work of a pilot' I meant to say it's his (or her) job to make sure the plane doesn't crash: if something unforseen or unexpected happens it's the pilot's job to take care of it. I am sure there are real world pilots out there that have to deal with some odd things in certain planes on a daily basis. As ark already said: "much like the pitch changes you get in some a/c with gear and/or flap extension". Roger that ! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
March 15, 20224 yr If it's not working close to what really happens, Why is this in the POH "The automatic trim system may also be manuallyoverridden by grasping the trim wheel by hand" Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700F CPU @ 2.90GHz (8 cores) Hyper on, Evga RTX 3060 12 Gig, 32 GB ram, Windows 11, P3D v6, and MSFS 2020 and a couple of SSD's
March 15, 20224 yr 53 minutes ago, jimcarrel said: If it's not working close to what really happens, Why is this in the POH "The automatic trim system may also be manuallyoverridden by grasping the trim wheel by hand" In terms of the real aircraft, the automatic trim seems designed to maintain roughly the same airspeed as you add flap. That is basically what you want on approach, same airspeed but pitched down for better viz. However there are circumstances were you do not want that, adding flap to clear an obstacle comes to mind.
March 15, 20224 yr OK, so got a chance to login and jump in the Kodiak. The trim wheel definitely spins when you apply or retract flap in flight so the auto flaps-trim compensation mentioned in the POH is definitely modelled in the MSFS Kodiak. Whether the behaviour of the auto flaps-trim compensation kicking into action when switching off the autopilot is correct or is buggy I have no idea. Edited March 15, 20224 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
March 15, 20224 yr 8 hours ago, DeepestRed said: "Very clearly described"? Let's refer quickly to your three prior posts about the problem in this forum: In not one of those is the word "trim" even mentioned. You do talk about trim a bit further upthread, but given the amount of comments you've made about this one issue here it seems churlish to attack someone trying to help you for not catching that particular detail. Looking at your recent posts I can understand why fppilot, or anyone, may think the issue related to CG. Sometimes we may think we are communicating clearly, when in fact we are not as clear as we believe. In these cases the fault does not lie entirely with the person who misunderstood you whilst trying to help. I don't know one way or the other on this particular problem, but I know that that sort of attitude you're presenting here isn't very gracious, and probably doesn't make folks well inclined to help you with future problems you may have, either. Just something to think about. You left out this post, I posted yesterday Members 6,269 9,477 posts Location:Atlanta, GA Donor Report post Posted 15 hours ago (edited) I just finished the second flight in the Kodiak. The pitch nose down problem is exactly the way it was before the update. I watched the trim wheel this time and it rotated nose down about 5 degrees when I disconnected the AP.
March 15, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I just finished the second flight in the Kodiak. The pitch nose down problem is exactly the way it was before the update. I watched the trim wheel this time and it rotated nose down about 5 degrees when I disconnected the AP. Yeah, we know, you posted this 10 times now in this one topic (I counted them all) so I think the message is clear now, Bob. 😉
March 15, 20224 yr Sooo, what about the other bugs, are they fixed or do we still need the mod. Johan Pienaar
March 15, 20224 yr I think it works close to "real", as it says in the POH, to get around it you can just hold a little back pressure on the yoke, If the weather is agreeable, bypass the flaps , problem solved. You should know your plane (at least it helps alot). Not going to worry about the so called problem anymore Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700F CPU @ 2.90GHz (8 cores) Hyper on, Evga RTX 3060 12 Gig, 32 GB ram, Windows 11, P3D v6, and MSFS 2020 and a couple of SSD's
March 15, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, jimcarrel said: I think it works close to "real", as it says in the POH, to get around it you can just hold a little back pressure on the yoke, If the weather is agreeable, bypass the flaps , problem solved. You should know your plane (at least it helps alot). Not going to worry about the so called problem anymore Depends on the phase of the flight! If you are on final, slowing the Kodiak without use of flaps is a real challenge unless experiencing a strong headwind. In fact even from cruise altitude I have learned to slow the Kodiak to VFE and deploy 10° of flaps before beginning the descent just in order to best manage speed. On short final, if on AP, I deploy to full flaps as I disengage AP and adjust power as needed, paying more attention to GS than to IAS. Edited March 15, 20224 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
March 15, 20224 yr Author Hobbs meter question…now the Hobbs shows after engine start which is great but it never counted properly during a flight or counts in a way I’m not familiar. Did a 1:15 flight yesterday and the block time showed 6. Any ideas what I’m seeing? Flight time at the beginning of a flight looks good but like block time it doesn’t count correctly during a flight. Edited March 15, 20224 yr by NismoRR
March 15, 20224 yr Looks like an old bug still there. There is no visual icing representation except on windshield . You can feel effect of icing but you can't see it on leading edge. That it only affect Kodiak. My Twotter got iced up just fine Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
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