1 minute ago, MarcG said:

So why do they have a VR team? What are that "team" doing exactly? (Rhetorical questions) All points to poor management with a lack of interest, regardless of VR user numbers I just don't think they have their heart set on VR at all or even know which direction they want to take it in, case in point the very fact they weren't going to include VR at all initially.

I fully accept this feature is not high priority and I could live with minor updates every now and then, but the very fact they've ignored the ( VR) wish list and bug sections for well over a year now speaks volumes to me, not to mention the SU7 mouse issues which should never of been allowed to manifest in the first place.

I have no idea, but if I had a company and I had many things to fix, and 10% of  my customers wanted something addressed, it would go on my back burner for sure. 

virtual reality 😖 virtual my "%6!

 

Like what i means is does VR and your trackers have to overtake every freakin conversation 😊

 

Edited April 11, 20224 yr by icewater5

This thread just proves again that there are two fundamentally different ways of looking at MSFS and its current state. Some users see a fantastic sim, beyond anything they could ever  have imagined they would live long enough to see; others see it as OK, but not nearly what they expected -- a big disappointment. I wonder if there may be an age factor here. Those who have been flight simming for many years tend to fall into the first group, while younger simmers are more demanding, expecting perfection now if not sooner. As a member of the first group, I am continually amazed by this sim and flying as I never have before. The second group, it appears, is too obsessed with the faults of MSFS to be having much fun with it, which is unfortunate.  

7 minutes ago, cobalt said:

This thread just proves again that there are two fundamentally different ways of looking at MSFS and its current state. Some users see a fantastic sim, beyond anything they could ever  have imagined they would live long enough to see; others see it as OK, but not nearly what they expected -- a big disappointment. I wonder if there may be an age factor here. Those who have been flight simming for many years tend to fall into the first group, while younger simmers are more demanding, expecting perfection now if not sooner. As a member of the first group, I am continually amazed by this sim and flying as I never have before. The second group, it appears, is too obsessed with the faults of MSFS to be having much fun with it, which is unfortunate.  

Here are two from the second Group.  

 

 

I miss the time I could run the game at Lod 100 with tree distance fix, then it really looked gorgeous graphical, so in that area it has gotten worse, but I think it has been improved a lot in other areas.

Edited April 11, 20224 yr by Ixoye

11 hours ago, versus said:

...apart from World Updates...

Even if we dismiss the innumerable improvements since release cited by @pmb and others in this thread, the "tiny" fact that MSFS receives regular World Scenery Updates places MSFS decades ahead of P3D and X-Plane, both of whose default scenery is pretty much unusable for VFR flying and whose scenery is literally never updated between versions. At initial release in August 2020, the global scenery in MSFS was already spectacular, but it's nonetheless being constantly refined. These scenery updates are not to be dismissed as insignificant as the OP implied. Can you imagine the jubilation of X-Plane users if XP12's default scenery looked like MSFS's default scenery, never mind the constant updates to MSFS? Why do you think that the thus-far showcased videos of XP12 invariably hide the global scenery from view? Yes, you'll see a handcrafted airport or handcrafted landmarks, but the remaining 99.9% of the default global scenery is always hidden by clouds or darkness or out-of-focus bokeh in these official videos. If you doubt this, rewatch the videos. And, yes, I've heard that "XP12 is in early development." That's been their excuse since the Eisenhower Administration.

lol is that Danny DeVito in the corner 😃

1 hour ago, MarcG said:

 

The Sim is still great at times and I thoroughly enjoy it but at the same time it's also a frustrating mess, poorly handled by the head Devs who are struggling to really move the Sim forward whilst smiling pleasantly for the Q&A cameras pretending everything is great(!).

This is the status of the sim in a nutshell.  I have days where it's incredibly real, everything appears to be working.  And then the next day it's a sim-saster lol

8 minutes ago, David Mills said:

Even if we dismiss the innumerable improvements since release cited by @pmb and others in this thread, the "tiny" fact that MSFS receives regular World Scenery Updates places MSFS decades ahead of P3D and X-Plane, both of whose default scenery is pretty much unusable for VFR flying and whose scenery is literally never updated between versions. At initial release in August 2020, the global scenery in MSFS was already spectacular, but it's nonetheless being constantly refined. These scenery updates are not to be dismissed as insignificant as the OP implied. Can you imagine the jubilation of X-Plane users if XP12's default scenery looked like MSFS's default scenery, never mind the constant updates to MSFS? Why do you think that the thus-far showcased videos of XP12 invariably hide the global scenery from view? Yes, you'll see a handcrafted airport or handcrafted landmarks, but the remaining 99.9% of the default global scenery is always hidden by clouds or darkness or out-of-focus bokeh in these official videos. If you doubt this, rewatch the videos. And, yes, I've heard that "XP12 is in early development." That's been their excuse since the Eisenhower Administration.

Yes, I have been hearing from that side of the fence, for many years, " The next version will be spectacular".  It has never happened. With MSFS, I have saved hundreds and hundreds of dollars in add on scenery needed to " dress it up", like I had to do  with P3D and FSX

13 minutes ago, icewater5 said:

lol is that Danny DeVito in the corner 😃

Yup.

 

no way, that is class son😁

5 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

What I don't get is the original intent of the OPs post other than to stir up controversy. I have been flying MSFS for over a year, and the improvements I have seen are excellent.  I now fly, flight after flight, with good performance, great scenery, no CTDs in over a year except one which was my fault, it doesn't get any better than that and I have been simming for around 30 years. I take off, fly, and land with zero problems. Never had that in any sim I have had on my PC. 

I agree 100%. I'm in SU9 beta, and the overall experience has been fantastic. In regards to things we've never had before, I actually completed 3 flights in one session yesterday. I flew from Baltimore to Charlotte and then on to Tampa. MSFS was running for over 7 hours without a problem. That was unheard of in both FSX and P3D for me. On a good day, I could barely complete 2 legs without some sort of a problem or another.

The scenery looks great, the weather looks great, and the FBW experimental version has been a whole lot of fun to fly. I'm a happy camper.

I do think the OP is wrong. This sim gets better all the time. The growing pains are a little much for some people to handle, but most of us see it for what it is. Forward progress.

Just now, MDFlier said:

I agree 100%. I'm in SU9 beta, and the overall experience has been fantastic. In regards to things we've never had before, I actually completed 3 flights in one session yesterday. I flew from Baltimore to Charlotte and then on to Tampa. MSFS was running for over 7 hours without a problem. That was unheard of in both FSX and P3D for me. On a good day, I could barely complete 2 legs without some sort of a problem or another.

The scenery looks great, the weather looks great, and the FBW experimental version has been a whole lot of fun to fly. I'm a happy camper.

I do think the OP is wrong. This sim gets better all the time. The growing pains are a little much for some people to handle, but most of us see it for what it is. Forward progress.

I am on my 3rd flight today in the JF Arrow over Spain. Every flight is a gem. 

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

This is the status of the sim in a nutshell.  I have days where it's incredibly real, everything appears to be working.  And then the next day it's a sim-saster lol

Surely this extreme day-to-day variation must have a local cause. How could it be otherwise?

Edited April 11, 20224 yr by cobalt

7 minutes ago, cobalt said:

Surely this extreme day-to-day variation must have a local cause. How could it be otherwise?

I must be doing something right because very day is a gem with MSFS,