AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

[ckyliu 1,749]

On 4/22/2022 at 4:09 PM, Maxis said:

Umm posted a few posts above that says MSFS results ?

Whoops I missed the text, I just saw a big video embebbed and thought I couldn't be bothered to watch lol. I still think most of us are GPU bound.

[Makinen11 184]

If anyone has this chip and can post their experience here I am eagerly following as I am on the fence for upgrading my ageing 7700K with either this or the 12700K... The youtube tests are not good enough as they are not focusing on stuff the more experienced simmers do like a sim full of addons, more than just a landing challenge etc.

[Bnash00 85]

I just switched out my 5950x for a 5800X3D. Here are the results of a simple test comparing the two CPUs. System specs: Asus ROG Dark Hero VIII motherboard, 5950x/5800X3D (stock frequency & AIO water-cooled), 32GB DDR4 3800 CL14 RAM, eVGA Nvidia 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra, Windows 11 Pro, LG C1 OLED 48" G-SYNC compatible display.

Here are my MSFS2020 Settings:

Display Mode:            Full Screen
Full Screen Resolution:        3840x2160
Render Scaling            100
V-SYNC                OFF
Frame Rate Limit        OFF
HDR10                ON
DirectX Version            DX11
Global Rendering Quality    Custom

Anti-Aliasing            TAA
Terrain Level Of Detail:    200
OFF Screen Terrain Pre-Caching:    Ultra
Terrain Vector Data:        Ultra
Buildings:            Ultra
Trees:                Ultra
Grass and Bushes:        Ultra
Objects Level of Detail:        200
Volumetric Clouds:        High
Texture Resolution:        Ultra
Anisotropic Filtering:        16X
Texture Supersampling:        8x8
Texture Synthesis:        Ultra
Water Waves:            High
Shadow Maps:            1024
Terrain Shadows:        1024
Contract Shadows:        Ultra
Windshield Effects:        Ultra
Ambient Occlusion:        Ultra
Cubemap Reflections:        128
Rymarched Reflections:        Ultra
Light Shafts:            Ultra
Bloom:                On
Depth of Field:            Off
Motion Blur:            DIE!
Lens Correction:        Off
Lens Flare:            On
Glass Cockpit Refresh Rate:    High

MSFS 2020 with 5950X at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 parked on RWY 31L. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 20:40:53 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 1297 frames rendered in 33.093 s
                     Average framerate  :   39.1 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   38.0 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   39.7 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   33.4 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   29.4 FPS

MSFS 2020 with 5800X3D at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 parked on RWY 31L. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 22:39:39 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 1337 frames rendered in 31.656 s
                     Average framerate  :   42.2 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   38.2 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   43.3 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   35.1 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   17.4 FPS

MSFS 2020 with 5950X at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 low flight over Manhattan. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 20:45:43 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 1780 frames rendered in 33.453 s
                     Average framerate  :   53.2 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   42.3 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   57.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   32.7 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   16.9 FPS

MSFS 2020 with 5800X3D at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 low flight over Manhattan. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 22:44:07 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 2326 frames rendered in 37.968 s
                     Average framerate  :   61.2 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   50.2 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   66.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   37.9 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   15.8 FPS

In short conclusion the Simulator is significantly smoother with the 5800X3D cpu. Panning the camera is smother, also camera transitions often experience jitters or stutters as frames drop during the transition with the 5950X. This frame stutter/jitters is completely gone now with the 5800X3D. In less complex scenery areas I am pushing well into 70 - 80 FPS at 4K in the FlyByWire A320.  I will not be going back to the 5950X.   

 

[Makinen11 184]

Amazing results and amazing report Benjamin, this is conclusive for me to go for the 5800X3D now instead of waiting for a new platform later down the line. Thank you for your testing!

[Bnash00 85]

I just upgraded to the 5950x build 7 months ago. My previous build was an intel 4960x cpu with a Titan X (Maxwell) gpu, with DDR 3 ram. The jump in performance was truly amazing. There will always be next gen parts that are “about to come out”. At some point you have to jump in. I don’t have any regrets. All you can do is make the best decision for your circumstance. Good luck, and happy sim-ing.

[J0nx 48]

Would love to know the difference in p3d5. 

[daan_vb 37]

What kind of performance does one get when taking off on runway 09L at inibuilds Heathrow with Vatsim and AIG in the Fenix?

That’s the acid test for me!

Edited May 28, 2022 by daan_vb

[tfm 169]

On 5/6/2022 at 6:02 PM, Bnash00 said:

I just switched out my 5950x for a 5800X3D. Here are the results of a simple test comparing the two CPUs. System specs: Asus ROG Dark Hero VIII motherboard, 5950x/5800X3D (stock frequency & AIO water-cooled), 32GB DDR4 3800 CL14 RAM, eVGA Nvidia 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra, Windows 11 Pro, LG C1 OLED 48" G-SYNC compatible display.

Here are my MSFS2020 Settings:

Display Mode:            Full Screen
Full Screen Resolution:        3840x2160
Render Scaling            100
V-SYNC                OFF
Frame Rate Limit        OFF
HDR10                ON
DirectX Version            DX11
Global Rendering Quality    Custom

Anti-Aliasing            TAA
Terrain Level Of Detail:    200
OFF Screen Terrain Pre-Caching:    Ultra
Terrain Vector Data:        Ultra
Buildings:            Ultra
Trees:                Ultra
Grass and Bushes:        Ultra
Objects Level of Detail:        200
Volumetric Clouds:        High
Texture Resolution:        Ultra
Anisotropic Filtering:        16X
Texture Supersampling:        8x8
Texture Synthesis:        Ultra
Water Waves:            High
Shadow Maps:            1024
Terrain Shadows:        1024
Contract Shadows:        Ultra
Windshield Effects:        Ultra
Ambient Occlusion:        Ultra
Cubemap Reflections:        128
Rymarched Reflections:        Ultra
Light Shafts:            Ultra
Bloom:                On
Depth of Field:            Off
Motion Blur:            DIE!
Lens Correction:        Off
Lens Flare:            On
Glass Cockpit Refresh Rate:    High

MSFS 2020 with 5950X at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 parked on RWY 31L. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 20:40:53 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 1297 frames rendered in 33.093 s
                     Average framerate  :   39.1 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   38.0 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   39.7 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   33.4 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   29.4 FPS

MSFS 2020 with 5800X3D at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 parked on RWY 31L. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 22:39:39 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 1337 frames rendered in 31.656 s
                     Average framerate  :   42.2 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   38.2 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   43.3 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   35.1 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   17.4 FPS

MSFS 2020 with 5950X at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 low flight over Manhattan. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 20:45:43 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 1780 frames rendered in 33.453 s
                     Average framerate  :   53.2 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   42.3 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   57.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   32.7 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   16.9 FPS

MSFS 2020 with 5800X3D at 4K resolution. FlyByWire A320 low flight over Manhattan. 12:00pm scattered clouds.

05-05-2022, 22:44:07 FlightSimulator.exe benchmark completed, 2326 frames rendered in 37.968 s
                     Average framerate  :   61.2 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   50.2 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   66.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   37.9 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   15.8 FPS

In short conclusion the Simulator is significantly smoother with the 5800X3D cpu. Panning the camera is smother, also camera transitions often experience jitters or stutters as frames drop during the transition with the 5950X. This frame stutter/jitters is completely gone now with the 5800X3D. In less complex scenery areas I am pushing well into 70 - 80 FPS at 4K in the FlyByWire A320.  I will not be going back to the 5950X.   

 

Wow I am so appalled by this!!

 

I just did the exact same thing at KJFK 31L with my new kit (12900ks 3090 ti 32Gb ddr5 5600-36) and got … 35 fps on average. 

 

looks like I wasted a lot of money 

[pstrub 998]

1 hour ago, tfm said:

Wow I am so appalled by this!!

 

I just did the exact same thing at KJFK 31L with my new kit (12900ks 3090 ti 32Gb ddr5 5600-36) and got … 35 fps on average. 

 

looks like I wasted a lot of money 

What was your old kit? And what resolution are/were you on? 4K I suppose?

[tfm 169]

5 minutes ago, pstrub said:

What was your old kit? And what resolution are/were you on? 4K I suppose?

Old kit was 8086k 1080ti 4K - but my comparison is with the earlier post in this thread, which used a 3800x3d 

[Samaritano 304]

I am interested on getting this CPU for a minor update to my current system ( i7 4790K ). I am planning ok keeping my current 1080Ti and various storage drives that I own (M2, SSD's and HD) my question is, would my current Seasonic 750W PS work with a new AM4 Mobo or do I have to upgrade the PS as well?

These are the parts that I am considering.

 

[Greggy_D 935]

Looks good.  Your 750w power supply will be just fine with that CPU and 1080ti.  I would upgrade to at least an 850w if you ever upgrade your video card to a 3080 or above.

[Samaritano 304]

Thank you Greggy. That it’s the plan, to get a better PSU and a 3080ti. Just waiting for the new Nvidia 4000 series to come out. 

[chapstick 2,757]

For anyone wondering about P3D V5 gains with the 5800X3D - it's zilch. I saw no improvement in terms of FPS or ability to load textures/autogen.

[F737MAX 5,599]

On 6/11/2022 at 6:07 PM, Chapstick said:

For anyone wondering about P3D V5 gains with the 5800X3D - it's zilch. I saw no improvement in terms of FPS or ability to load textures/autogen.

Ouch. In that case P3D really 'needs' a new graphics engine.
I had bought my 5800X3D to try and improve the performance in P3D. Instead, I borked the reinstall after I upgraded my hardware, gave up trying to fix it and moved to MSFS.

I have almost zero issues in MSFS. Incrediby impressed by my PC's ability to handle complex environments.