July 12, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Murmur said: IMO Fair enough, I don't agree. I'm excited about XP12 though as well as all future updates to MSFS 🙂 Cheers, Bert AMD Ryzen 5900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3080 Ti, Windows 11 Home 64 bit, MSFS 2024
July 12, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Murmur said: Honestly, sometimes my replies are deliberately exaggerated, but that's just in reaction to people who are not interested nor use XP and yet come here and deliberately insult the community. Try and take a guess how many hours of XP11 I have logged in Steam. Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
July 12, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, rka said: That sounds a bit like it they needed improvement 🤭 But maybe there have been great discoveries about flight dynamics since the last update to the XP flight models, when was that, 2021? 🤭🤭 I'll show myself out. Not just a bit. properly simulated supersonic and transonic flight and realistic delta wing vortex behavior have been on the wish list of quite a few ppl for a while. This stuff is hard, there is always something else to fix. AutoATC Developer
July 12, 20223 yr Back to topic, please, which is XP12 ground scenery and autogen, not MSFS anything, and not flight dynamics. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 15, 20223 yr Stuff you will only experience on avsim, guys. We were there! Edited July 15, 20223 yr by rka Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
July 16, 20223 yr On 7/12/2022 at 4:21 PM, Bob Scott said: Back to topic, please, which is XP12 ground scenery and autogen, not MSFS anything, and not flight dynamics. Hi Everybody, I believe today's interview will be the tell all of XP12 Ground Scenery... Could it be that ORBX has been working on XP12's ground scenery all along? I find it odd that ORBX is the only 3rd party provider "that I remember seeing" included in any of these interviews. Tick- Tock just about four hours and we'll know. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
July 16, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said: Hi Everybody, I believe today's interview will be the tell all of XP12 Ground Scenery... Could it be that ORBX has been working on XP12's ground scenery all along? I find it odd that ORBX is the only 3rd party provider "that I remember seeing" included in any of these interviews. Tick- Tock just about four hours and we'll know. If there is a discord watch party, I will join it. System Spec 1: Nvidia RTX 4090, AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, Res 5120x1440, HP Reverb G2System Spec 2: AMD Radeon RX 7900XT, Intel I-9 9990K, Res 3840x1080, HP Reverb G2
July 18, 20223 yr I think its great that Orbx are now working along side with the next release in Xplane and great see Anna Cicognani take control who has great experience in Australia with running companies 🙂 Having Orbx scenery available for areas around the world will be great for the current community as well as new comers to the franchise. I feel this has always been lacking in Xplane without the need to create ortho tiles for areas. I'm happy to see Austin keep to his vision of having xplane not requiring the need of internet connection and I think this a great solution to not just all ourselves but those people in remote places who also want the same enjoyment with Xplane. Edited July 18, 20223 yr by ianlighting
July 18, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, ianlighting said: I think its great that Orbx are now working along side with the next release in Xplane and great see Anna Cicognani take control who has great experience in Australia with running companies 🙂 Having Orbx scenery available for areas around the world will be great for the current community as well as new comers to the franchise. I feel this has always been lacking in Xplane without the need to create ortho tiles for areas. I'm happy to see Austin keep to his vision of having xplane not requiring the need of internet connection and I think this a great solution to not just all ourselves but those people in remote places who also want the same enjoyment with Xplane. I believe that this is Orbx change to actually show their creative straight that will shine brighter and make a more meaningful X plane impact than on other sim where you have too many competing factors from the developer with the WU and third party that gives the appearance of a over crowded field.
July 19, 20223 yr It will be impossible for X-Plane to compete with MSFS with regards to ground scenery, I think that debate is fairly settled and unless they also bring in real-time satellite streaming from a provider like Google, there is no way to compete. They can use incredibly accurate terrain mesh and perfectly placed buildings using the latest OSM data and it still won't be able to compete. You'd have to add ortho on top of that and even then it's a tough sell. I just hope they can improve things like the roads, the building types, and other things still under their control. If they want to aim for the "professional" market I agree it's probably fine to just do your best with what you can (OSM, etc) and leave the beautiful fancy stuff to MSFS and a consumer market. People can complain about "melted" buildings and other issues with MSFS's photogrammetry but we don't fly at 50 feet generally (yes, I know, helicopters etc), and at even lower altitudes MSFS can look simply stunning. I've flown flights where it is almost indistinguishable from what I see outside my window on real flights. And the photogrammetry can be turned off if you need to do low-level flying without seeing such artifacts. I don't think X-Plane should be striving for that. Just get us to the "next level up" from where XP11 is currently at. Edited July 19, 20223 yr by Gulfstream
July 19, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Gulfstream said: It will be impossible for X-Plane to compete with MSFS with regards to ground scenery looks more and more like it will be something of swings and round abouts, and that the MS advantage will erode fairly quickly. We already know XP12 has better trees/water/atmosphere/airports/aviation objects than MSFS. thats some 90% of the planet, and 99% of what you see when flying. Orbx is already the "go to" for the best of the remaining 10% for both platforms. Which means the competition will be more on who is the most stable, and who has the best aircraft. Not sure anyone doubts who "wins" there.... Edited July 19, 20223 yr by mSparks AutoATC Developer
July 19, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, mSparks said: Which means the competition will be more on who is the most stable, and who has the best aircraft. Not sure anyone doubts who "wins" there.... IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad 😜 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
July 19, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, mSparks said: We already know XP12 has better trees/water/atmosphere/airports/aviation objects than MSFS. Do we? I haven't seen anything at all to say that XP12 has 'better' anything in that respect. 7 hours ago, mSparks said: Orbx is already the "go to" for the best of the remaining 10% for both platforms. Is it? 7 hours ago, mSparks said: Which means the competition will be more on who is the most stable, and who has the best aircraft. Not sure anyone doubts who "wins" there.... MSFS I presume? On what basis is XP12 more stable and with better aircraft? I want XP12 to do very well, but none of your statements are based in any fact. A few curated marketing videos tell you nothing of substance. Edited July 19, 20223 yr by 2reds2whites
July 20, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, 2reds2whites said: Do we? I haven't seen anything at all to say that XP12 has 'better' anything in that respect. yes. plenty, e.g. "didn't look so didn't see" wont excuse you in an NTSB investigation. 19 hours ago, 2reds2whites said: On what basis is XP12 more stable and with better aircraft? Well, for starters, it runs on stable, not broken operating systems, it only goes downhill for MS stuff from there. 19 hours ago, 2reds2whites said: Is it? yes Edited July 20, 20223 yr by mSparks AutoATC Developer
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