[30APR22] PMDG 737-700 Update - Maybe next week!?

[YouDontKnow 93]

The weekend is almost arrived. I suppose that the bug is not fully solved. 
 

on to the next weekend 😅

[abrams_tank 7,393]

6 minutes ago, harrry said:

If the SDK is not fully documented it is not fully  useable and it is not reasonable to say that PMDG for example is to blame for not knowing or fully understanding how something works.  Responsibility in this case for the SDK would seem to lie with ASOBO.

There is a lot of documentation added for the MSFS SDK already.  You can search the SDK documentation, so much documentation has been added for the MSFS SDK.

But as a software developer, I want to emphasize that just because the SDK is fully documented, it doesn't mean a developer will understand it.  I have worked with many SDKs in my career that are fully documented, but even then, I don't fully understand how they work, the first time I use it.  There is a difference between a fully documented SDK, and mastering that SDK.  You can have a fully documented SDK, and if you are new to the SDK, you can still get lost as a developer.  That's exactly why there are support forums for developers. 

Just look at all the questions at Stackoverflow.  And those are questions from developers in Stackoverflow on technology fully documented SDKs. Please do not assume that just because an SDK is fully documented, that a new developer to that SDK, can master the SDK on his/her first try.  It may take years to fully master an SDK, even if it's fully documented.

Edited May 5, 2022 by abrams_tank

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7 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

There is a lot of documentation added for the MSFS SDK already.  You can search the SDK documentation, so much documentation has been added for the MSFS SDK.

But as a software developer, I want to emphasize that just because the SDK is fully documented, it doesn't mean a developer will understand it.  I have worked with many SDKs in my career that are fully documented, but even then, I don't fully understand how they work, the first time I use it.  There is a difference between a fully documented SDK, and mastering that SDK.  You can have a fully documented SDK, and if you are new to the SDK, you can still get lost as a developer.  That's exactly why there are support forums for developers. 

Just look at all the questions at Stackoverflow.  And those are questions from developers in Stackoverflow on technology fully documented SDKs. Please do not assume that just because an SDK is fully documented, that a new developer to that SDK, can master the SDK on his/her first try.  It may take years to fully master an SDK, even if it's fully documented.

exactly....and in this case it seems there may be documentation missing  (Understandably though maybe more than should be) and it seems everyone is very willing to say the developer (PMDG) in this case is at fault for not knowing things which may or may not have been documented.  I am on the developer's side with this sort of problem as development relies on this.  I will say ASOBO seems to be learning and doing a much better job for all concerned than a year ago.

Edited May 5, 2022 by harrry

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1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said:

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[abrams_tank 7,393]

4 minutes ago, harrry said:

exactly....and in this case it seems there may be documentation missing  (Understandably though maybe more than should be) and it seems everyone is very willing to say the developer (PMDG) in this case is at fault for not knowing things which may or may not have been documented.  I am on the developer's side with this sort of problem as development relies on this.

But PMDG also has direct line to Asobo, that some other 3rd party devs may not have the privilege of having.  So if there is something PMDG doesn't understand, PMDG can get a response much quicker than other 3rd party devs.   With his past comments, Randazzo seemed to imply that PMDG is treated as a "first class" developer by Asobo (the same can't be said of other less prestigious developers who don't have that direct line to Asobo).

Anyways, I don't want to assign blame on either party.  My whole point is, SDKs are notoriously complex.  I didn't assign blame to PMDG, and I didn't assign blame to Asobo.  

Edited May 5, 2022 by abrams_tank

[Alaska738 8,389]

2 hours ago, YouDontKnow said:

The weekend is almost arrived. I suppose that the bug is not fully solved. 
 

on to the next weekend 😅

You don't know. Robert will post an update tomorrow or Saturday. There can be great news!

[YouDontKnow 93]

3 minutes ago, Alaska738 said:

You don't know. Robert will post an update tomorrow or Saturday. There can be great news!

So you know! That’s great. 

[YouDontKnow 93]

3 minutes ago, Alaska738 said:

You don't know. Robert will post an update tomorrow or Saturday. There can be great news!

So you know! That’s great. 

[Farlis 2,280]

Man, I'm so glad that I'm not interested in the 700 variant. The anticipation would kill me. I can now simply lean back and watch others go bonkers and expect the release of the airframe that interests me in 3 months. 😉

[Drumcode 1,892]

I have spent a ton of money on airports waiting for my 737 excursions and this thing is just dragging on. Come on already. Ugh.

[klamal 282]

41 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Man, I'm so glad that I'm not interested in the 700 variant. The anticipation would kill me. I can now simply lean back and watch others go bonkers and expect the release of the airframe that interests me in 3 months. 😉

And then you can do the same thing the rest of us are doing now..."go bonkers" while we wait for it to finally be released.  So, I guess you can be glad you're not doing that now.  But, in good time, you'll be in the same boat.

[Alaska738 8,389]

55 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Man, I'm so glad that I'm not interested in the 700 variant. The anticipation would kill me. I can now simply lean back and watch others go bonkers and expect the release of the airframe that interests me in 3 months. 😉

And why not take advantage of it now? 3 months is still a long time especially if there's a delay.

[Farlis 2,280]

3 hours ago, Alaska738 said:

And why not take advantage of it now?

Because I owned all iterations of PMDG's 737 so far and I found that I virtually never fly any other variant than the 800. So that is the one I'm going to buy. And none other.

Edited May 5, 2022 by Farlis

[pmplayer 9,399]

4 hours ago, Alaska738 said:

You don't know. Robert will post an update tomorrow or Saturday. There can be great news!

Yea, Robert could post : Sorry guys, our 737 takes another two months, bla bla,bla..🥳 🤣

cheers 😉

[Car147 2,276]

Not to worry, I am sure Fenix and the A310 dev cannot be that far away. Great times!