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46 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

WASM isn't for the graphics. As I understand it it is used to program the aircraft systems and more complex instruments such as the FMC etc.

Presumably as the ProSim is simulated external to the MSFS environment they don't use WASM.

In aircraft like the CRJ (and I assume the 737) the aircraft in P3D is coded in C++ uses draw calls to GDI+. The same C++ code (for graphics) running under WASM uses NanoVG for rendering. It does not have to be done that way, and apparently with ProSim, Fenix can move almost everything out of the sandboxed WASM container.

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11 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

On my system, the CRJ takes about 10 minutes on first run, and the Maddog takes about 25 minutes. The 737 is probably more complex than either in terms of the amount of WASM code, so I would expect it would take as long (or longer) than the Maddog.

I can imagine that requires a lot of faith and patience.


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7 minutes ago, edpatino said:

I can imagine that requires a lot of faith and patience.

I just installed it and first run took 9 minutes. Not bad - comparable to the CRJ.


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1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

I just installed it and first run took 9 minutes. Not bad - comparable to the CRJ.

Which are your system specs?.

Haven't purchased the B737NG yet (will do, of course). On my computers, as far as I can remember, the CRJ took around 7-8 min to load for the first time. if the B737 is in that range, it's Ok.

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it was about the same as the CRJ for me. just let it sit. monitor your CPU usage and you'll see it's working. if it drops to 0% usage and it's been more than 20 minutes, then i'd say it probably froze.

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6 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

In aircraft like the CRJ (and I assume the 737) the aircraft in P3D is coded in C++ uses draw calls to GDI+. The same C++ code (for graphics) running under WASM uses NanoVG for rendering. It does not have to be done that way, and apparently with ProSim, Fenix can move almost everything out of the sandboxed WASM container.

Learn something new everyday! Thanks!


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3 hours ago, edpatino said:

Which are your system specs?.

Haven't purchased the B737NG yet (will do, of course). On my computers, as far as I can remember, the CRJ took around 7-8 min to load for the first time. if the B737 is in that range, it's Ok.

4790K OC to 4.2 GHz, GTX1080ti, 32GB RAM - adequate, but not high end by any means. I did one quick flight, and performance was very good 


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1 minute ago, JRBarrett said:

4790K OC to 4.2 GHz, GTX1080ti, 32GB RAM - adequate, but not high end by any means. I did one quick flight, and performance was very good 

Thanks, and yes, good system but as you say, we both maybe don't have the latest. So, it's really excellent news to know the B737NG is Ok with it.

Btw, do you also own the Maddog MD-80?. I suppose the first load would be in the same time range.

Thanks again.


Cheers, Ed

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9 hours ago, Aamir said:

Heya, it doesn't actually apply to the Fenix - we will not have long loads at first launch. First load is the same as the all the others - snappy. 

Hey you. Who let you out? Get back to your dungeon....err... studio and finish coding! I've got some cash to throw at you when they let you out at the proper time. Shoo! 😁

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30 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Thanks, and yes, good system but as you say, we both maybe don't have the latest. So, it's really excellent news to know the B737NG is Ok with it.

Btw, do you also own the Maddog MD-80?. I suppose the first load would be in the same time range.

Thanks again.

The Maddog was quite a bit longer actually. About 20 minutes

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