Fenix and performance

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

According to the specs (had to look it up), my i9-10900k has an onboard gpu. However, I think I have it disabled in my bios. My RTX2080TI is humming along at 70% load, and my cpu about the same. Are there any benefits using the i9 onboard GPU over my RTX or cpu?

[Piotr007 166]

6 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

In short: It's fine.

On my ancient PC (8700K, 1080TI) with Render Display on Intel Graphics 630 and Display Quality to Performance I made just a quick comparison. Nothing scientific, just for a first assessment. To avoid discussions about what framerate is acceptable I give just percentages with the FBW being 100.

 

FBW A320: 100%

FNX A320: 115%

AS CRJ: 120%

Default C172: 130%

 

And let me add that - other than the FBW - the Fenix is perfectly smooth, no stutters.

 

Ancient?

 

I7 6700k is more ancient😁

Can run nicely well, but the caveat is tweaking for performance.

Trying to iron out the ctd's occasionally still...

[Flic1 976]

I continue to have the issue with the displays being extremely laggy.  It's really quite awful seeing the PFD altitude readout change every couple seconds on climb/descent.  I have an aging system but I can run FBW and PMDG just fine.  The issue for me is that I am getting a nice smooth 30-35 FPS in general, it is just the displays (PFD/ND) that look like they are running at 1-2 fps...or less!  I have tried  both rendering options CPU/GPU (no integrated card) and the other Performance/Balanced/Quality setting on the Fenix config and nothing seems to solve it....

[JYW 2,980]

3 minutes ago, Flic1 said:

I continue to have the issue with the displays being extremely laggy.  It's really quite awful seeing the PFD altitude readout change every couple seconds on climb/descent.  I have an aging system but I can run FBW and PMDG just fine.  The issue for me is that I am getting a nice smooth 30-35 FPS in general, it is just the displays (PFD/ND) that look like they are running at 1-2 fps...or less!  I have tried  both rendering options CPU/GPU (no integrated card) and the other Performance/Balanced/Quality setting on the Fenix config and nothing seems to solve it....

I had that too, when having the displays set to CPU rendering.  For me, the "performance" setting using GPU was smoother and faster that the "quality" setting using CPU.

I'm surprised changing to GPU never fixed it for you, as we have the same GPU and similar CPUs.  Bummer!   Hope you get it sorted.

Edited May 20, 2022 by JYW

[Flic1 976]

1 minute ago, JYW said:

I had that too, when having the displays set to CPU rendering.  Have you tried launching the Fenix app and setting the displays to be rendered by your GPU?    For me, the "performance" setting using GPU was smoother and faster that the "quality" setting using CPU.

I did change it to GPU on the fly while in-sim last night but still had terrible lag on the displays.  I will try GPU again along with Performance and see if that is better....I don't think I tried that combo.

[RJC68 823]

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

Hello fellow Torontonian :), I'm actually getting this a bit later as I'm away from home currently.  From all what I've seen of this bird on many previews/reviews with those that have varying hardware, there doesn't appear to be any performance red flags at all... in many cases it's >= FBW performance, and perhaps a bit less than the PMDG 737. So depending on how you're doing with the FBW you can make your decisions re: purchasing this for your current system.  It's only going to get better with more performance optimization fixes and feature enhancements, but it's already looking like the most advanced immersive aircraft for any sim... so given all that I'd say you should go ahead and pull the trigger.

Cool,

The FBW performs really well on my system. Solid 30FPS everywhere locked in NVCP. I wonder if I have any money left in my UK account 😀

Richard

[jrw4 624]

Anyone running the Fenix with an i7-7700K and GTX 1080 on HD? The PMDG 737 runs OK on my system, but only at medium graphics settings or thereabouts.

I may need to wait this out for a while until I can convince my wife that a $2500 computer plus 2K monitor make sense. Yeah, that will take a while....

[RJC68 823]

3 minutes ago, jrw4 said:

Anyone running the Fenix with an i7-7700K and GTX 1080 on HD? The PMDG 737 runs OK on my system, but only at medium graphics settings or thereabouts.

I may need to wait this out for a while until I can convince my wife that a $2500 computer plus 2K monitor make sense. Yeah, that will take a while....

I know that struggle lol

Have you considered a 4K TV instead of a 2K Monitor? I picked up a TCL 43 inch Roku TV used in perfect condition for $150 CDN last fall. I find that size is the sweet spot, I did briefly try my 55 inch 1080P Panasonic I have in my basement for size but it was was just too big being sat that close. I gotta say the sim looks fabulous in 4K though 

[Johnny Wyatt 152]

40 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

According to the specs (had to look it up), my i9-10900k has an onboard gpu. However, I think I have it disabled in my bios. My RTX2080TI is humming along at 70% load, and my cpu about the same. Are there any benefits using the i9 onboard GPU over my RTX or cpu?

Quoting average CPU load is useless 🙄 what matters is usage per core

[dolbinau 72]

Did anyone else realise there was no way to increase simulation rates before buying?? I guess it's not a long-haul bird so it's not an absolute deal breaker but it is a little annoying. 

[Sethos 4,335]

7 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

In short: It's fine.

On my ancient PC (8700K, 1080TI) with Render Display on Intel Graphics 630 and Display Quality to Performance I made just a quick comparison. Nothing scientific, just for a first assessment. To avoid discussions about what framerate is acceptable I give just percentages with the FBW being 100.

 

FBW A320: 100%

FNX A320: 115%

AS CRJ: 120%

Default C172: 130%

 

And let me add that - other than the FBW - the Fenix is perfectly smooth, no stutters.

 

Did you have to do anything special to get the iGPU working with your 8700? When I enable it, install the drivers, set it in the Fenix CP, PC just BSODs with an Intel driver problem when loading up the plane. Might just be a local hardware issue, driver conflict or perhaps I need to do something special for that setup to work properly with my 1080 Ti. 

[martinboehme 492]

1 minute ago, dolbinau said:

Did anyone else realise there was no way to increase simulation rates before buying?? I guess it's not a long-haul bird so it's not an absolute deal breaker but it is a little annoying. 

I also did not realize this. I did see some mention that at least 2x was supposed to be possible - maybe through the MCDU or EFB? Haven't been able to find that option though.

The time I can devote to simming is limited, so this really makes anything over a one hour sector not very feasible for me.

[PilotPete99 915]

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

@lwt1971  Thanks for the answers.  Very interesting and informative!

I will be getting the Airbus tomorrow and I will try the various settings. 
As my 3080Ti seems under-utilised on my settings (around 50% locked at 30 fps), I may even try to drop it on there instead of potentially overheating my overclocked 12900K. 
I will report back after the weekend.

PS.  I have been to Toronto a few times - it is one of my favourite places in the whole world. 
Me and my wife love it - I think we have walked about 95% of the PATH system.  Can't wait to get back again.

+ 1....I love Toronto! Greatest hockey city in the world! Not a bad place to watch a baseball game either! And let's be fair, Molson Canadian is one of the smoothest beers around! The "99" at the end of my username is Wayne Gretzky's number (Brantford, ON native), who has been my ultimate sports hero since I was a kid and still is today.

Cheers, Pete

Edited May 20, 2022 by PilotPete99

[Bobsk8 12,703]

10 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

+ 1....I love Toronto! Greatest hockey city in the world! Not a bad place to watch a baseball game either! And let's be fair, Molson Canadian is one of the smoothest beers around! The "99" at the end of my username is Wayne Gretzky's number (Brantford, ON native), who has been my ultimate sports hero since I was a kid and still is today.

Cheers, Pete

For Beers, my pick is Montreal.. La Fin du Monde. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22/34/

Edited May 20, 2022 by Bobsk8

[petz_e 76]

I have a Ryzen 9 3900 (not the x variant!) and a 2080s. Will I be able to run the plane smoothly or will my old CPU be a bottleneck? My 3900 is only slightly over the minimum requirements and no integrated GPU.

The FBW a320 and the 737 all run fine, though already a bit heavy on the frame rate on the ground.

Edited May 20, 2022 by petz_e