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I guess I'm the frst one!! Re: LDS 767 for FSX

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I just flown my first full flight with it and so far it's not too bad! I duplicated a flight I just flew today so I have a benchmark! It was beween KGPT and KMEM. Not the most challenging area performance wise in FSX though. I flew real weather with ASX both times, this morning though was clouds and storms, it seems to have cleared up tonight mainly fair weather clouds on this one. All FPS was taking in VC on both flights. This mornings flight was on Overland 777Situation Ovr 777 LDS 767 On Tarmac KGPT 34-35FPS 19-22FPSTaxi and Takeoff KGPT 30-32 FPS 17-19FPSMid Flight 48-54 FPS 25-30FPSApproach KMEM 30-35 FPS 17-19FPSLanding & Taxi KMEM 25-30 FPS 13-15FPSThis is without changing my current settings which are extremely dense scenery, max global texture res, Dense autogen tweaked to 600 trees, 800 buildings per cell, water 2xlow, max weather and 100% traffic (Airline)If you have the horsepower you can get decent, (not great) results, but if your system is lacking, then this may not work for you!

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I'm tickled to death!!!!With framerates locked @ 20, on a flight from KLWB to KSAT she was near 20 all the way until KSAT. At KSAT in the mid teens to twenty and very flyable IMHO (I realize that to some, anything below 40 or 50 is hersey, these old eyes just can't see the difference). A smooth and uneventful flight. (Flew down for the first NBA final game). GO WHOEVER, I Love both teams but will probably lean toward the Spurs.I just relocated to KJFK, gate 72 for a worse case situation. Then taxied G and B taxiways to 13R for a takeoff. Framerates anywhere between 10 and 20, but again, very flyable. The takeoff run was at about 15 but smooth as could be to these old eyes. Quite honestly, I get about the same results with the default Baron. Downtown Manhattan is another story. Better stick to something else for sightseeing NY, but who flys a 767 at 500 feet down the East River?On FSX, performance with my new system (system specs attached) is about equal to the best I got on my 3.2 Intel with FS9 and the FS9 LDS 767.1280x960x32 tripple monitors, target frame rate 20, Advanced animations, Anisotropic filtering, AA both FSX & Video control, Global texture resolution very high, 2D Instrunent Panel, Show cockpit ToolTips, Aircraft casts shadows on the ground, Aircraft landing lights illuminate ground, All scenery sliders full right except Water effects: High 1.x, Land detail textures, Global Settings Ultra High, Cloud draw distance 60 mi, Detailed clouds Cloud coverage density Maximum, Download winds aloft data with real world weather, Rate at which weather changes over time very high, All traffic as close to 50% as possible (48-51%), All aircraft labels except User aircraft. All others are not checked (and there are not many). I also have implemented the nhancer recommendations.A couple of other notes: I have also implemented the "3GB enabler"/ "LARGE ADDRESS AWARE"/ "BCDEDIT" edits to get rid of Out of memory errors (On XPPro). Since doing that, I have not had the error again. Don't know if it improved anything else.I confess that I also am not much on VC's. As an old CFI who taught many lessons in J3's, Cessna 120's and 140's, a Luscomb or two and Colts I could care less about eye candy and am only interested in functionality. If VC's are your thing, I don't really know what the impact is, but best of luck.The latest version of FSUIPC was included in the installation for me from Flight1 (Thanks Flight1!).Conclusion: Especially if you already have the fs9 version, a $15.00 investment in this offering is one of the best bargins I ever saw IMHO. If you must have 80 FPS (boy, I wish I could get that on anything that turns me on), this is not the bird for you!.Good luck and happy flying!RTHASUS P5N-E-SLI MotherboardIntel E6600 Core2 Duo CPUZalman CNPS7700-CU RT CPU Fam4 GB KST DII800 MemoryWinXP ProNVIDIA VCG8800GTX 768MB Primary Video Graphics Card21

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Fantastic news :)I've been waiting for this since FSX was released.Mark

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Back after a good night's sleep and it's looking interesting. Some people seem to be doing ok, others not. Now I'm really in a dilema :-)

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>anywhere between 10 and 20, but again, very flyable.I have a different opinion on what's flyable and smooth. :-roll>ASUS P5N-E-SLI Motherboard>Intel E6600 Core2 Duo CPU>Zalman CNPS7700-CU RT CPU Fam>4 GB KST DII800 Memory>WinXP Pro>NVIDIA VCG8800GTX 768MB Primary Video Graphics Card>21

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Did a small circuit at KSEA and the frames remain locked at 20.Finished my first flight KDFW-KSUS and again the locked 20. This was with the 2D panel, 20% MytrafficX, scenery at dense and autogen at normal. This is with a 6400 cpu and 7600.For me it's a keeper and the upgrade price is more than correct. The FSX plane costs 40

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>Jeesh, with a system like this I'd EXPECT much better>performance. What a waste of money. I bet this system runs FS9>very well though. ;)>>Jason>With 4Gb of RAM, and a 768Mb GPU I'd expect a lot more than 10 fps .... :)Now add some complex airport addons, and see what happens ;)

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>For me it's a keeper and the upgrade price is more than>correct. The FSX plane costs 40

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:-) This LVLD 767 has given me new hope. My older single core P4/3GHz/2GB/ATI1650-512 is struggling to provide both adequate FPS and decent texture loading/sharpness. Very difficult to accomplish as most are well aware.I expected LVLD 767 to make matters worse, as it is very high fidelity, feature-rich, simulation. That is not what happened on my setup, instead my FPS nearly doubled to 20+ when running LVLD DXT3 texture models.I can now actually fly into airports (already tried KLAS/KLAX/EGLL/EDDF) at 150-260 knots and get 15 FPS and sharp textures. Go figure!Well LVLD 767 is a keeper for me while I continue to watch and hope for a more generalized fix to the SP1 performance woes.ToddP.S. I run FSGenesis mesh and US Landclass, ASX+Graphics X, UT for FSX.

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And the download manual is OUTSTANDING (particularly for the FMC)!!!! Worth $14.95 just for the manual in my book, but of course it is free.To each his own. With the Flight1 refund policy, rather than bad mouth all of us that are happy with the results, I would humbly suggest giving her a try before pronouncing all of the doomsday reactions.While some seem to be so pesimistic I am enjoying the daylights out of this bird with a framerate pegged out at my 20 lock everywhere except under the most dense conditions. I tried a setting of 40, and she varied in the 20's and 30's, sometimes pegged out but I can see no advantage to the higher lock personally. With the exception of what I mentioned in my earlier posts, I have no other tweaks.THANK YOU LDS!!!Respectfully:RTH

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I did a quick flight last night with the Level D. I flew out of KSAN and did a couple of circuits. My frame rates jumped from mid teens to mid 30's....The most important aspect of the flight was the fact that regardless of the frame rate counter, the sim seems smooth and responsive. I turned off the frame rates and enjoyed myself.Bryan

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uhhh not really...you're flying from the 2D panel...I always had great FPS in there....try the VC ;) And those with better PC's were talking about flying over NYC...Still though, this isn't a bash LDS etc, it is just what I sorta imagined would happen with these kinds of addons.

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ACtually the GPU doesn't do much for FPS in the flight simulator world...it's more CPU than anything. RAM helps... but in dense areas, a 6800 vs a 8800 gpu won't really matter, unless you crank the res or AA/AF settings

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I agree. I see 20-25 FPS in 2D and 4-6 FPS with the VC. But, since I never use the VC anyway it's not a problem. My initial look says it's a keeper - even on this old PC.DougP4 3.2E @ 3.680 (1.385 vCore - 230 FSB)Asus P4C800-E Deluxe (BIOS 1023)2GB Corsair XMS-3200C2 (2-3-3-6-2T)1.5 TB of Western Digital HDDATI X850XT PEA-Open 1648 AAP RipperPlextor 708A WriterEnermax 431W PSUInwin Case

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I bought it last night and did a few quick flights. It was great to see the familar cockpit, sounds and systems / flight modelling of one of my favourite FS9 addons now working in FSX. The VC looks much better than the old, especially the overhead panel which is now much easier to see.On the not so good side, my FPS took a noticable hit from what I am used to in FSX, but that had far more to do with venturing into city areas now and using a glass cockpit aircraft with FSX rather than the LDS aircraft itself. In fact, when I started getting frustrated getting sub-10 FPS in the NYC area (with default FSX detected settings mind you!), I switched to the stock 737-800 and the FPS barely went up 1 or two. In order to get FPS into the high teens needed for smooth Track IR operation, I had to turn most sliders to medium low and went back to single screen, which makes FSX look worse than a maxed out stock FS9 IMO, so I sighed and shut it down for the night :(So I'd like to congratulate LDS for making one of the best aircraft even better in FSX, it's just a pity that, for me at least, that its new play pen puts a damper on the whole experience. I'll play a little more today to see if there is something I missed with setting FSX up. Gary

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Im getting good FPS with the 767. About 20-25 in dense areas. Im loving it!Rob

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If you click the panel in VC will a 2-d window pop up? (like with the default boeing 737)? That really is a great feature.

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If you click the panel in VC will a 2-d window pop up? (like with the default boeing 737)? That really is a great feature.

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ditto. just landed the 767 at RJAA with full AI traffic and lots of ASX cloudy weather, FPS 25-30. ==Marten:Weber==P-D920 oc3.64MHz 2GB RAM WinXP ATI X1900+1024MB 2xSATA250 2xVIEWSONIC 19"Best AI available today: www.world-of-ai.com

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Well I finally took the plunge and bought and installed the 767. Was very reluctant after reading some of the posts especially those with a medium entry computer. Try to make a long story not too long; I was pleasantly surprised how smooth this bird flies on my computer with acceptable frames. Not quite as good as on FS9 but a keeper for FSX IMO. I used KSEA as my test site and with most all sliders midway or more except water; some clouds, traffic at 50%, global max, very dense scenery, the frames I got sitting on the runway at KSEA@6PM are below.I realize there are so many variables at least this would give some of those with similar computer like mine some hope.Frames set at 21fps; (cycle through)2D: 12-15 VC: 13-15Outside View: 18-21TV: 20-21WVs: 20-21If I use unlimited, which appears best for me, the frames other than the panels do spike higher 2-4fps.Now with all that said here is one problem I have noticed

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I never bought this add in for fs9 as with my rig these type of products just took too big of a hit.I was curious though and took the plunge on this one and am amazed at how well performance wise it does. Big jets have never been my cup of tea but I may be changing my antics with this one.Great product!

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I've got to get me one of those P4 chips. Seems they have it all over the newer generation chips with this plane in FSX ;)Gary

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