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The Honda Jet Isn't Good....

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2 hours ago, fppilot said:

It is the G3000 haunting  you here ahead of Halloween. 

If you have the TDS GTNxi mod installed then before flyiing with the Hjet G3000 go into your task tray and close the TDS.  Then try this Hjet G3000 workaround from Les OReilly and his Hjet videos.  It is working famously for me.  Note that the Hjet developer, Marwan, in concert with WT, has made some interim mods to the G3000 suite in the Hjet.  Those have tempered some G3000 issues, not created them.  Emphasis on some.  He has fully intergrated his WT G3000 mod into the Hjet so do not also load the WT G3000 as an addon when flying the Hjet.

Flight plan entry.  Skip the MSFS World screen flight planning entirely.  Only enter your departure airport.  Period.  Then Go fly. 

Once at the ready in MSFS, enter your flight plan with the GTC in exactly this order.  Departure airport.  You will need to enter it as despite the fact that you entered it in the World screen, the Hjet G3000 flight planning page should be empty.  Next, enter your destination airport.  Then build your route step by step from departure to destination. SID and transition; then enroute waypoints/airways, all of them, in the order of their sequence in the flight plan; then after all enroutes and airways enter any STAR and transition; then the Approach if you predict it ahead of time.  Make sure with any SID and STAR that no waypoint is duplicated with your enroute entries at the time you enter them.  For example, if the transition waypoint onto a STAR is also your exit waypoint from an airway, then use the previous fix on the airway as your exit and allow the G3000 to then take you to the duplicated waypoint as part of the STAR.  Same rule with a SID.  If a SID transition is on an airway then use the next fix on the airway after the SID as the entry point to the airway.

These are G3000 issues until the WT G3000 overhaul arrives, hopefully before the end of the year.  I hope this will work for you.  I have learned in this case to ignore for not what I know is supposed to work with the G3000 and instead work with what in the current state is known to work.

Thanks for your help!  I'll give your suggestions a go.  When I was doing the flight I make mention of above, I did manually enter the flight.  Not sure if I have the TDS GTNxi mod installed.  I don't believe I do, just using SU10 which I think updated the Nxi.  I DO have the WT G3000 mod installed though because I fly the Longitude. 

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The HJet is one of the sweetest planes to fly so the Avionincs which are very nice play second fiddle IMO.

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15 minutes ago, Dreamflight767 said:

I don't believe I do, just using SU10 which I think updated the Nxi.  I DO have the WT G3000 mod installed though because I fly the

SU10 replaced the default MSFS G1000 with the WT G1000Nxi, not the TDS GTNxi, which is a 3rd party addon.  If you use the Addons Linker it is terribly easy to load or unload (without uninstalling/reinstalling) the WTG3000 before starting MSFS.  

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Can't seem to locate one. Does anyone know of a AAO / StreamDeck profile for this aircraft? I check flightsim.to but did not locate one. 

Eric 

 

 

The HJet is indeed Good!

In anticipation of one of my clients picking me up Monday in their  C560xl, I thought it might be fun to get myself in the mood with my own private jet.  It did take a few turns for the worse before I got the knack of flying it, but with the learning curve out of the way it just gave me the most perfect landing I have ever experienced in MSFS.   Navigation is just spot on, and fine tuning the landing speed was almost perfect as well.
 

The work done by this single developer is the most amazing part of it all.  
 

Very happy flyer here!

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What a gorgeous bird!

 

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Question, what FL do you normally fly business jet like this? Is it the same a commercial airliners? or a bit lower. I know that may be a silly question but I am genuinely curious. 

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23 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

Question, what FL do you normally fly business jet like this? Is it the same a commercial airliners? or a bit lower. I know that may be a silly question but I am genuinely curious. 

Most times I watch p1d or CitationMax they are FL380+ (Premier 1 & CJ3+ respectively).

 

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Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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28 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

Question, what FL do you normally fly business jet like this? Is it the same a commercial airliners? or a bit lower. I know that may be a silly question but I am genuinely curious. 

Usually they fly much higher.

FL430 is not rare.

@Gazzareth Thanks for list those. I will watch some of their videos later.

@Farlis Thank you as well. Learned something new today. 

 

I don't suppose you HAVE to have Navigraph to fly planes like the HJet do you? I've not purchased a study level aircraft because I haven't been sure if I can just use what MSFS comes stocked with. I assume since I am not flying the simulator to supplement actual real-world flight it won't matter.

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34 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

@Gazzareth Thanks for list those. I will watch some of their videos later.

@Farlis Thank you as well. Learned something new today. 

 

I don't suppose you HAVE to have Navigraph to fly planes like the HJet do you? I've not purchased a study level aircraft because I haven't been sure if I can just use what MSFS comes stocked with. I assume since I am not flying the simulator to supplement actual real-world flight it won't matter.

No, the data in the sim is pretty good and updated. That said I prefer having Navigraph so data in multiple applications AND charts are all in sync.

 

But definitely no need AND something you can decide on at any point.

 

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Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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@Gazzareth Thank you again. Would any of you have recommendations on a youtube that instructs how to program the flight computer and such? Also, would this be a decent starting aircraft if one wanted to learn jet/passenger aircraft? 

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50 minutes ago, Lotharen said:

@Gazzareth Thank you again. Would any of you have recommendations on a youtube that instructs how to program the flight computer and such? Also, would this be a decent starting aircraft if one wanted to learn jet/passenger aircraft? 

In some ways yes, in some ways no.

It's a good model and is highly automated so easy to fly, but at this moment in time is limited by the faults in the MS Flight Planner. This should be fixed in time though.

Choices are to live with it (it is worth it tbh), or try an alternative such as the WT CJ4 (great and free) or Cockspur Mustang (which is rough and ready, has it's own limitations but again great in it's own way).

I have, and fly all 3 regularly. If I could only have one it would be the CJ4, but all 3 are well worth it - AND more importantly being improved!

 

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Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth"

Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron

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3 hours ago, Lotharen said:

@Gazzareth Thank you again. Would any of you have recommendations on a youtube that instructs how to program the flight computer and such? Also, would this be a decent starting aircraft if one wanted to learn jet/passenger aircraft? 

Join the publisher, FlightFX's, Discord.  https://discord.com/channels/852695133040017448/1019711488010764399  There in the FlightFX "Important Information" section you will find links to videos, a tutorial PDF, and links to realworld Hondajet and Garmin documentation. The "flight computer" is the Garmin G3000 suite, which has been improved by the Hjet developer in some key respects over the current Working Title G3000.  Direct implementation will be provided for Working Title's full G3000 workover, which WT has announced will be out by the first of the year upcoming.

In regard to flight level, the Hjet is capable of FL430.  However its max cruising speed is acheived in the low FL300's range.  I have so far logged about 80 hours in 30 flight segments.  I fly realistically and use the real world flight planning site FltPlan.com.  Like most jets the Hjet shortens the flight time and realistically affects the flight level used.  For flights of under an hour, I find myself using FL300 or lower.  The shorter the flight the lower the FL.  For longer flights I use fuel burn as my criteria and fly between FL 300 and FL400, picking the FL for optimum fuel burn (cost).  I have only gone above FL400 once.  You must learn to manage foward speed under the Garmin FLC mode to get to that level efficiently, otherwise you will find your vertical climb rate bleeds off slowing your arrival at those upper altitudes.  I have lowered my controlled FLC speed from the standard 210 knots indicated to as low as 180 knts indicated to maintain a healthy rate of climb when up above FL350.  That gets you there more quickly and efficiently (fuel consumption).

 

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