Performance wise : still disableing PG cities needed ?

[Cpt_Piett 4,614]

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

In MFS the glider aerodynamics are partially modelled, but rather incomplete and in some aspects very far from reality. Yet, ASOBO is working with a team, mentioned in the recent 40th Aniversary videos, on a soaring tittle that will probably be released as payware in the future. By that time I am sure the flight dynamics have received the announced updates coming with SU10, and weather modeling is also going to offer some promising features, including thermal lift based on thermal radiation, so, I look forward into the day I can use MFS not only as a tool to analyse soaring tasks flown IRL or to prepare for tasks I plan to try.

I’ll probably give it a try, sounds like fun. There’s some great variety in the sim. Recently I’ve been flying the excellent (freeware) Savage Grravel a lot. Highly recommended!

[jcomm 5,909]

35 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

 

“It looks better than FS9”

That’s only because you (probably) uninstalled most of the terrain tiles from FS9, leaving that sim looking more like FS 4.0.

🙂

🤣

[tup61 1,550]

1 hour ago, blueshark747 said:

PG off isn’t an option for me with MSFS, its pretty much what makes the sim special. Two things Ill sacrifice last for performance..

ultra clouds and PG

Are you sure you mean PG? And not the Bing grond textures? The latter make the sim special (photoreal all over the world with superb 'autogen'): PG can only be found in smalle parts here and there... But perhaps you purposely only fly over PG? 

1 hour ago, hvw said:

Just wondering. I am only flying airliners, FBW A320NX and Fenix A320, would PG ON make any difference in the "immersion" of flying at high(er) levels?

No. But someone else might say yes. 😉 Just give it a try! 

[Sesquashtoo 2,846]

2 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

PG off isn’t an option for me with MSFS, its pretty much what makes the sim special. Two things Ill sacrifice last for performance..

ultra clouds and PG

PG does NOT have to be off in DATA.   You still get all the PG around the world...only PG Cities....that is what triggers the FPS dump while on the ground...a Main Thread issue.  I have PG Cities deleted, but PG as on in Data.

[tup61 1,550]

3 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

PG does NOT have to be off in DATA.   You still get all the PG around the world...only PG Cities....that is what triggers the FPS dump while on the ground...a Main Thread issue.  I have PG Cities deleted, but PG as on in Data.

That's not PG. MSFS doesn't have 'PG around the world'. That Bing data concerns photoreal ground textures, something completely different than PG (cities). 

[Max Kraus 339]

4 hours ago, tup61 said:

Same here. I never uninstall anything and have every official release installed. Graphic settings at ultra, even in the Fenix itself, and things are wonderful. My tweaking days are done (since a long time already).

Ditto here.  I have everything on, runs great, rig below. Nice to be in a period of  Time Flying > Time tweaking. For so long it was the opposite in versions gone by.

[Phantoms 800]

5 hours ago, Simicro said:

Sorry, quick dumb question: what does PG stand for please?

 Photogrammetry, or in this case photogrammetry cities

See

 

[Stearmandriver 2,266]

Is there a benefit to actually deleting photogrammetry vs just turning it off? I did turn it off a while back because of the melted buildings... autogen just looks better. I did gain about 5fps doing that. I don't really need the perf improvement; all is still smooth with FPS in the high 30s even with it on... but turning it off did provide a measurable FPS boost if someone were chasing that.  Are you saying that actually deleting it would do even more? 

[The Moose 1,177]

Just to clarify something here that some seem to have misunderstood. 

 This isn't about deleting ALL photogrammetry, it's specifically 8  PG files that came with the world updates.  Deleting these stops the main thread overload bug that some of us experience.

If you delete these files but leave PG on in the data settings you still get all the PG cities that were in the sim pre-world update, just not the newer ones added in world updates.   

You can still re-enable a world update PG file and fly in that area with all the PG and no performance bug.   

The issue seems to only rear its head flying in the US with these files still enabled, even though they have nothing to do with the US.   It's a weird one 🙂

Edited June 16, 2022 by The Moose

[hvw 401]

1 hour ago, The Moose said:

This isn't about deleting ALL photogrammetry, it's specifically 8  PG files that came with the world updates

Hi,

Still confused. I cannot seem to find these 8 PG files, I ransacked my Content Manager but no luck. Can you please be so kind to inform me what files you are talking about and where they are located? Thanks a lot.

[The Moose 1,177]

When in content manger click the box (circled in red) in the image first,  then in the search box type photogrammetry and you'll end up with 9 files listed like in the pic ( i presume there's 9 now. as there should be a USA one as well now)    What I do is delete all of them apart from the area I'm going to be flying in if there is one for that area, if there isn't delete the lot..

Quit the sim and restart.  

 

[pilotter 254]

50 minutes ago, hvw said:

Hi,

Still confused. I cannot seem to find these 8 PG files, I ransacked my Content Manager but no luck. Can you please be so kind to inform me what files you are talking about and where they are located? Thanks a lot.

in your contant manager , search for photo. then press the 3 stripes by sort by. you should have 9 results. Delete al of them. You can reactivate them also in the same manner.

[hvw 401]

39 minutes ago, pilotter said:

in your contant manager , search for photo. then press the 3 stripes by sort by. you should have 9 results. Delete al of them. You can reactivate them also in the same manner.

Thanks a lot. Found them.

[hvw 401]

41 minutes ago, The Moose said:

you'll end up with 9 files listed like in the pic

Thanks a bunch, found them.

[GSalden 4,656]

What about the Challenges, Lessons and aircraft you will never fly ?

Disableing them is multiple Gb.

Anyone tried that to see if it has a positive efffect on performance?

( Here I have a 738 full size cockpit )