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[Build] New build, opinions, advices needed

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Ricardobc    2

Ricardobc
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Hello Simmers,

 

Hope everyone are ok.

I'm plannig a new build 90% for MSFS2020 connected to a 35 UW Monitor, LG35WN65C (3440x1440). Latter i don't know yet if i will change it for a 4K 50"Tv, but for now it's this.

I saw a lot of threads and some youtube videos and i reached 2 builds and now i need to understand pros and cons of eah one.

 Build 1:

Intel i9 12900KF

Corsar 4000D Airflow

Corsair H115i Capellix

Corsair RMx 1000w

Corsair Vengeance Pro SL 4x16GB 300Mhz Cl18 DDR4

Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite DDR4

Gigabyte RTX 3080TI Gaming OC

Seagate Barracuda 4TB 

Corsair ML140mm Pro (x2)

 

It's better to stay on DDR4 memories and save some money ou go to DDR5 (more expensive)?

 

Build 2:

AMD Ryzen 3800X3D

Corsar 4000D Airflow

Corsair H115i Capellix

Corsair RMx 1000w

Corsair Vengeance Pro SL 4x16GB 300Mhz Cl18 DDR4 for AMD

MSI MEG B550 Unify-X (Used but with warranty from a store in my country)

Gigabyte RTX 3080TI Gaming OC

Seagate Barracuda 4TB 

Corsair ML140mm Pro (x2)

 

So 12900k ou 3800X3d? What do you think simmers?

 

NOTE: i have 1 ssd m.2 WD SN750 Nvme 1TB and 1 ssd m.2 Kingston A2000 512gb to install in the new build.

 

Thank you in advance for your opinions.

 

Regards,

 

Ricardo

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Ricardo (Montijo, Portugal).
System: MSFS2020

NEW BUILD in process:

Intel i7 12700K, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Ultra, 64GB RAM DDR5, Gigabyte RTX 3080 TI, 2TB SSD Samsung 980 PRO, 1TB SSD WD SN750, 1TB SSD Kingston A2000, Corsair Hydro H150i Elite LCD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Virtuoso SE Headset, Corsair 5000D Airflow with 7 SP120mm RGB Elite Fans, LG 35WN65 (3440x1440), Thrustmaster Airbus Officer Pack+AddOn

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pgde    571

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I would go with the AMD CPU. Cut down your RAM to 32Gb and use the savings for a M.2 SSD. I think you are hamstringing performance with a mechanical hard drive. Check this out -- https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

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Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX MB; AMD 7800X3D CPU; Deepcool LT520 AIO Cooler; 64 Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000; Win11 Pro; P3D V5.4; 1 Samsung 990 2Tb NVMe SSD: 1 Crucial 4Tb MX500 SATA SSD; 1 Samsung 860 1Tb SSD; Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 1080ti 11Gb VRAM; Toshiba 43" LED TV @ 4k; Honeycomb Bravo.

 

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Ricardobc    2

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2 hours ago, pgde said:

I would go with the AMD CPU. Cut down your RAM to 32Gb and use the savings for a M.2 SSD. I think you are hamstringing performance with a mechanical hard drive. Check this out -- https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

Pgde, Thanks for your answer.

I forgot do inform that i have 2 ssd M.2 to install. 1 WD SN750 NVME 1TB and 1 Kingston A200 512gb.

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Ricardo (Montijo, Portugal).
System: MSFS2020

NEW BUILD in process:

Intel i7 12700K, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Ultra, 64GB RAM DDR5, Gigabyte RTX 3080 TI, 2TB SSD Samsung 980 PRO, 1TB SSD WD SN750, 1TB SSD Kingston A2000, Corsair Hydro H150i Elite LCD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Virtuoso SE Headset, Corsair 5000D Airflow with 7 SP120mm RGB Elite Fans, LG 35WN65 (3440x1440), Thrustmaster Airbus Officer Pack+AddOn

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Ricardobc    2

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I was searching in 2 local stores and catch some promos:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800X3D

MOBO: MSI B550 Unify-X

RAM: Corsair 4x16GB Vengenace RGB Pro SL for AMD

PSU: Corsair RMx 1000w

COOLER: Corsair H115i Capellix

CASE: Corsair 5000x iCue

GPU: Gigabyte RTX3090 Gaming OC 24GB DDR6x

FAN: 1 extra Corsair SP120 RGB Elite

THERMAL PASTE: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

 

What do you think? Balanced build?

 

Ricardo (Montijo, Portugal).
System: MSFS2020

NEW BUILD in process:

Intel i7 12700K, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Ultra, 64GB RAM DDR5, Gigabyte RTX 3080 TI, 2TB SSD Samsung 980 PRO, 1TB SSD WD SN750, 1TB SSD Kingston A2000, Corsair Hydro H150i Elite LCD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Virtuoso SE Headset, Corsair 5000D Airflow with 7 SP120mm RGB Elite Fans, LG 35WN65 (3440x1440), Thrustmaster Airbus Officer Pack+AddOn

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martin-w    3,234

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16 hours ago, Ricardobc said:

It's better to stay on DDR4 memories and save some money ou go to DDR5 (more expensive)?

 

I'm on DDR5 and its not without issues. I'm having to run with XMP off. Did improve with a latest update, but still crashes. I don't mind running for a while with XMP off, my performance is still huge, but its something you might want to consider.

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21 hours ago, Ricardobc said:

Hello Simmers,

 

Hope everyone are ok.

I'm plannig a new build 90% for MSFS2020 connected to a 35 UW Monitor, LG35WN65C (3440x1440). Latter i don't know yet if i will change it for a 4K 50"Tv, but for now it's this.

I saw a lot of threads and some youtube videos and i reached 2 builds and now i need to understand pros and cons of eah one.

 Build 1:

Intel i9 12900KF

Corsar 4000D Airflow

Corsair H115i Capellix

Corsair RMx 1000w

Corsair Vengeance Pro SL 4x16GB 300Mhz Cl18 DDR4

Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite DDR4

Gigabyte RTX 3080TI Gaming OC

Seagate Barracuda 4TB 

Corsair ML140mm Pro (x2)

 

It's better to stay on DDR4 memories and save some money ou go to DDR5 (more expensive)?

 

Build 2:

AMD Ryzen 3800X3D

Corsar 4000D Airflow

Corsair H115i Capellix

Corsair RMx 1000w

Corsair Vengeance Pro SL 4x16GB 300Mhz Cl18 DDR4 for AMD

MSI MEG B550 Unify-X (Used but with warranty from a store in my country)

Gigabyte RTX 3080TI Gaming OC

Seagate Barracuda 4TB 

Corsair ML140mm Pro (x2)

 

So 12900k ou 3800X3d? What do you think simmers?

 

NOTE: i have 1 ssd m.2 WD SN750 Nvme 1TB and 1 ssd m.2 Kingston A2000 512gb to install in the new build.

 

Thank you in advance for your opinions.

 

Regards,

 

Ricardo

For what it’s worth….Just bought a new PC a month ago 

i9 12900k

EVGA 3080TI

Lian Li 011 Case

32GB DDR5 6000 hz

1000w PS 

Lian Li SL120 fans

Never have seen below 50 FPS (locked) using that exact same monitor running 3440 x 1440. I also overclocked to 5.2GHz and temps between 40-60 when using MSFS. 

All the normal payoff aircraft/scenery. 

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Pochi    68

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12 minutes ago, Dyno152 said:

For what it’s worth….Just bought a new PC a month ago 

i9 12900k

EVGA 3080TI

Lian Li 011 Case

32GB DDR5 6000 hz

1000w PS 

Lian Li SL120 fans

Never have seen below 50 FPS (locked) using that exact same monitor running 3440 x 1440. I also overclocked to 5.2GHz and temps between 40-60 when using MSFS. 

All the normal payoff aircraft/scenery. 

Even with the Fenix A320 ?

Pierre

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Dyno152    51

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Just now, Pochi said:

Even with the Fenix A320 ?

Pierre

Yes. 

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Ricardobc    2

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Hello Simmers,

Many thanks for all your answers. I have an excel chart with 6 diferente configurations and 6 diferent prices :), let me know wich can be my best option:

 

i9 10900k + RTX3090   i9 10900k + RTX3080TI
CASE Corsair iCue 4000x black PcDiga 119,9   CASE Corsair iCue 4000x black PcDiga 119,9
CPU intel i9 10900KF Amazon.es 406,03   CPU intel i9 10900KF Amazon.es 406,03
MOBO MSI MEG Z490 Ace Globaldata 259,9   MOBO MSI MEG Z490 Ace Globaldata 259,9
GPU MSI RTX 3090 Ventus 3X 24G OC Amazon.es 1859   GPU MSI GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Ventus 3X 12G OC Placa gráfica NVIDIA 12 GB GDDR6X Amazon.es 1261
PSU Corsair RM 1000x 80+ Gold PcComponentes 190,08   PSU Corsair RM 1000x 80+ Gold PcComponentes 190,08
RAM 2x CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600  Amazon.es 302,92   RAM 2x CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600  Amazon.es 302,92
COOLER Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Amazon.es 159,9   COOLER Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Amazon.es 159,9
FANS Corsair 120mm SP120 RGB Elite Performance PWM Amazon.es 17,99   FANS Corsair 120mm SP120 RGB Elite Performance PWM Amazon.es 17,99
THERMAL Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 5,55g Amazon.es 22,99   THERMAL Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 5,55g Amazon.es 22,99
      3338,71         2740,71
                 
i9 11900k + RTX3090   i9 11900k + RTX3080TI
CASE Corsair iCue 4000x black PcDiga 119,9   CASE Corsair iCue 4000x black PcDiga 119,9
CPU intel i9 11900K Amazon.es 420   CPU intel i9 11900K Amazon.es 420
MOBO GIGABYTE Technology Z590 AORUS Master Amaxon.es 208   MOBO GIGABYTE Technology Z590 AORUS Master Amazon.es 208
GPU Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming 24GB OC Edition GDDR6X (Recondicionado) PcComponentes 1747,41   GPU GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Gaming OC 12G Amazon.es 1331,47
PSU Corsair RM 1000x 80+ Gold PcComponentes 190,08   PSU Corsair RM 1000x 80+ Gold PcComponentes 190,08
RAM 2x CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600  Amazon.es 302,92   RAM 2x CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600  Amazon.es 302,92
COOLER Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Amazon.es 159,9   COOLER Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Amazon.es 159,9
FANS Corsair 120mm SP120 RGB Elite Performance PWM Amazon.es 17,99   FANS Corsair 120mm SP120 RGB Elite Performance PWM Amazon.es 17,99
THERMAL Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 5,55g Amazon.es 22,99   THERMAL Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 5,55g Amazon.es 22,99
      3189,19         2773,25
                 
i7 12900k + RTX3090   i7 12900k + RTX3080TI
CASE Corsair iCue 4000x black PcDiga 119,9   CASE Corsair iCue 4000x black PcDiga 119,9
CPU Intel Core i9-12900KF 5.2 GHz Amazon.es 612,9   CPU Intel Core i9-12900KF 5.2 GHz Amazon.es 612,9
MOBO Aorus Z690 AORUS Elite AX DDR4 Amazon.es 273,99   MOBO Aorus Z690 AORUS Elite AX DDR4 Amazon.es 273,99
GPU Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming 24GB OC Edition GDDR6X (Recondicionado) PcComponentes 1747,41   GPU GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Gaming OC 12G Amazon.es 1331,47
PSU Corsair RM 1000x 80+ Gold PcComponentes 190,08   PSU Corsair RM 1000x 80+ Gold PcComponentes 190,08
RAM 2x CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600  Amazon.es 302,92   RAM 2x CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro SL 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600  Amazon.es 302,92
COOLER Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Amazon.es 159,9   COOLER Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Amazon.es 159,9
FANS Corsair 120mm SP120 RGB Elite Performance PWM Amazon.es 17,99   FANS Corsair 120mm SP120 RGB Elite Performance PWM Amazon.es 17,99
THERMAL Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 5,55g Amazon.es 22,99   THERMAL Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 5,55g Amazon.es 22,99
      3448,08         3032,14

Ricardo (Montijo, Portugal).
System: MSFS2020

NEW BUILD in process:

Intel i7 12700K, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Ultra, 64GB RAM DDR5, Gigabyte RTX 3080 TI, 2TB SSD Samsung 980 PRO, 1TB SSD WD SN750, 1TB SSD Kingston A2000, Corsair Hydro H150i Elite LCD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Virtuoso SE Headset, Corsair 5000D Airflow with 7 SP120mm RGB Elite Fans, LG 35WN65 (3440x1440), Thrustmaster Airbus Officer Pack+AddOn

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ryanbatc    12,820

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I'd get the lower right system.  12900K / RTX 3080 Ti

But honestly if you can find one of those AMD 3D CPUs it may be better for a bit less cost:  https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d

I bought a 12700K and am using my old RTX 1080 Ti still at 2K res and its very nice.  SU9 screwed up the performance a little but I still get 30-40 fps with ultra settings.  Without video card my system was fresh components including cost of new case and Windows 11 - about 2100 USD.  I hope the GPU prices fall a bit - I'm holding out for a 40xx card but concerned the 850W psu won't be up to the task of the high end cards.

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| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 32GB 5600 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

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filou    2,741

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I just got the Ryzen 5800X3D. Even keeping my gtx 1080 this CPU is incredible!

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CORSAIR 4000 AIRFLOW (WHITE) / RYZEN 5800X3D / ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS / ARTIC LIQUID FREEZERII 240 / 32 GO DDR4 3200 KINGSTON FURY / MSI RTX4090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC / KINGSTON NV1 NVME 2 TO / BE QUIET PURE POWER 11FM  1000W 80PLUS GOLD / SAMSUNG NEO QLED 43" 4K.

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Ricardobc    2

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Well guys, 

First of all thank you for all the answers.

I finally bought the new machine from Amazon and all the parts are being shipped to me. Here is the specs of the new machine:

Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow Black

MOBO: Gigabyte Z590 Aorus ultra DDR5

CPU: Intel 12th i7 12700K

RAM: 4x16gb Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 5600Mhz CL36

PSU: Corsair RM1000x

GPU: Gigabyte RTX3080TI Gamming OC 12GB

COOLER: Corsair Hydro H150i Capellix RGB

FANS: 7x Corsair SP120mm Elite RGB

CABLES: Corsair Kit Pro Black

SSD1: Samsung 980PRO 2TB Nvme - only for Sim installation 

SSD2: WD SN750 1TB 

SSD3: Kingston A2000 1TB - Windows

HDD: Seagate 2TB for backups and storage

HEADSET: Corsair Virtuoso RGB SE Black

I will mantain the same montor, LG35WN65 (3440x1440).

So wish me luck because i will connect everything by myself and it will be the first time.

Ricardo (Montijo, Portugal).
System: MSFS2020

NEW BUILD in process:

Intel i7 12700K, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Ultra, 64GB RAM DDR5, Gigabyte RTX 3080 TI, 2TB SSD Samsung 980 PRO, 1TB SSD WD SN750, 1TB SSD Kingston A2000, Corsair Hydro H150i Elite LCD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Virtuoso SE Headset, Corsair 5000D Airflow with 7 SP120mm RGB Elite Fans, LG 35WN65 (3440x1440), Thrustmaster Airbus Officer Pack+AddOn

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DrumsArt    270

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@Ricardo,

Hi,

Just to know which OS please...and also the price.

Thank you and Good Luck!

Richard.

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Reader    2,009

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On 7/15/2022 at 2:03 PM, Ricardobc said:

So wish me luck because i will connect everything by myself and it will be the first time.

Good luck indeed.
You have the most superb collection of components arriving and once built and configured, one of the very best PCs that money can buy.

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