August 10, 20223 yr I have been flying the PMDG Boeings for many, many years now. I’m pretty adept at programming and setting the aircraft up to fly and I have hundreds if not thousands of hours to show it. My point here is I’m not new to these aircraft or their systems but ever since the LNAV are update for both the 600 & 700 I find that at least half of my flights will fly along as if everything is nominal when all of a sudden the LNAV will go into a left or right turn and do lazy circles around the magenta course line. Sometimes it’s it rejoins, often it does not. Anyone else, or is it just me? -B
August 10, 20223 yr PMDG are going to do an overhaul of the LNAV logic for the 737 product line. Wait - they just did an overhaul of LNAV logic with the release of the 600. I'm sure you're just imagining the anomaly you're seeing or it's the fault of Navigraph data. Wait - PMDG don't use Navigraph data since the LNAV overhaul, do they? Hmmmm. Probably, PMDG are going overhaul the LNAV logic that they just finished overhauling. I'm getting a headache trying to keep everything straight.
August 10, 20223 yr Plenty of flights in both the 737-700 and the 600 in the last week and I have not experienced this issue, or any others for that matter. Both aircraft seem to be performing properly for me, on my flights. AMD Ryzen 9900X3D & ASUS X870E Gaming Plus MB, w/64 Gb GSkill DDR5 RAM, PNY RTX 5090 GPU, lots of SSD's and M.2 drives, HAVN Case, Virpil VPC Panels 2 and 3, Virpil Constellation Alpha Stick, Virpil Rotor TCS Plus w/ Hawk-60 Collective grip, TM TCA Yoke Boeing Edition, TM HOTAS A-10 and F/A-18 Sticks and TM TPR Rudder pedals. Currently on Win11
August 10, 20223 yr Those "lazy circles" are an intermittent issue with the old LNAV logic..... Edited August 10, 20223 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
August 10, 20223 yr Its an Asobo issue with navdata , RR. sarcasm runnig out now. Edited August 10, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
August 10, 20223 yr Haven't noticed anything similar apart from earlier today when I picked up my flight stick which disconnected the autopilot when it moved. Maybe post a route to see if it's something specific. Intel Core i5-12600k, Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, 128 Gigs.
August 10, 20223 yr Have not noticed any deviations with the LNAV/VNAV on my flights. But im the type that wont close the doors till the entire flight plan is double checked and all waypoints are making sense and accounted for. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
August 10, 20223 yr I'm not flying the 737 yet. I'm waiting for the 800. I'm familiar with the 37 on P3d. I've been flying the HD787 mod and I have that same issue. The way it was explained to me on their discord was that it was encountering a "dead zone". Have no idea what that means. They said that it was an ASOBO issue. Gnacino
August 10, 20223 yr Yes, I've had this happen as well. But it is a random event and does not occur on every flight. For me, it seems to only happen at cruise. The oscillations can be quite extreme at times, forcing me to disconnect the AP and lightly steer manually to reacquire the course before engaging the AP again. Edited August 10, 20223 yr by Bartolet7 i9-14900k | 32gb DDR5 5600 RAM | RTX4080 | W11 | HP Reverb G2
August 10, 20223 yr yesterday after I programmed the FMC with the wave points was flying from CYYZ to KDCA about two thirds into the flight it started going off course. After the flight I closed the program and I had updates to install for Windows 10. Would that throw the 737 -600 off course ? 10700kf, 3080 nividia, 32gbs 3400mhz, 1,000 watts power, M.2 DVMe !tb, boot, 1tb 7200rpm, storage, windows 10 home
August 10, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, Christopher Low said: Those "lazy circles" are an intermittent issue with the old LNAV logic..... I know. I’ve been flying with the “old logic” for years but both of these planes have the LNAV V 2.0 code. As someone else posted here in response it’s random, not predictable but it does occur more than seldom for me at least. Currently stumped am I! -B
August 10, 20223 yr FMA readout? Airspeed? AP still engaged [CMD displayed]? Is the AP disconnect on input option enabled? Also, have you checked on the PMDG forum? If it's reproducible, you should certainly submit a support ticket. EDIT By any chance have any of the Assist options become enabled in MSFS? They should all be off. Edited August 10, 20223 yr by jrw4 As noted John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
August 10, 20223 yr Interestingly, this was an issue in the early FSX versions of the PMDG birds...IIRC, it turned out that overreaction to the sim's turbulence effects was the culprit, and it was solved (mitigated) by turning those effects way down. I wonder if it's the same gremlin reappearing on a different platform... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 10, 20223 yr Author 1 minute ago, jrw4 said: FMA readout? Airspeed? AP still engaged [CMD displayed]? Is the AP disconnect on input option enabled? Also, have you checked on the PMDG forum? If it's reproducible, you should certainly submit a support ticket. Howdy. Thanks for the good crumbs but I’m nominal on all those topics and the AP remains connected when this happens. I was hoping someone would say, “Oh yeah…when that happens check X and change Y, but alas not today! next time t rears I ts head, I f ever again, I will try to gather as much system info at the time of occurrence and open a support ticket. Best, -B
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