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Bert Pieke

Those blurries are killing me.

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>I'm sorry Larry but he specifcaly asked those with no>blurries to react. As we all know from your frequently posted>screenshots you do have the occasional blurry.I still say you're confused! :-lol My "so-called" blurries are just distant scenery fading into the distance. I've seen plenty of blurries, since they were common with FS9 on my old cpu, and even a bit with the new one.I have many real life pics, that as the scenery fades from precise crispness in the foreground, to less than focused in the distance; that you'd call them blurries too. :-hah Of course, someone else claims that's just camera focus. Of course my eyes see the same thing too; but someone else would just say I'm blind! :-lolI often take the freeway, which sits about 500' above the valley floor, where you can see 30 miles across the city. The objects/textures "always" fade to a much less focus in the distance.........with my 20/20 corrected glasses. When someone else said that distance objects should still be in focus, I thought whatever...edit -- 2nd pic FS9 on current cpuFSXhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174181.jpgFS9http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174183.jpg

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Please don't try to change the subject. This isn't about FS-9 vs FS-X this is about running FS-X without blurries.Some people (in the past) already went to the trouble of pointing out the blurries in your FS-X screenshots so I won't repeat that. Maybe you should visit an optometrist so you can see for yourself what we all can see in your FS-X screenshots.You have the same problems everybody else has with FS-X its just your standards that are different. I have no problem with that you are happy with FS-X RTM but don't deny that your setup occasionally has the same problems that we experience. You're only mortal after all ;)I'm also puzzled by the fact that you stick with FS-X RTM. Not trying out SP1 or Tileproxy. What are you affraid off?

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You can always uninstall SP1. It will most probably fix the blurries.

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>For those who want to see the phenoemenon happening, Here is a flight in which you extract its contents into the My DocumentsFlight Simulator X Files folder . . .WOW, what a demo. I didn't know I had a blurries problem until I tried your demo flight. I usually fly either low and slow (< 120 KIAS) or fly the Learjet up high and I'm only near the ground for a short (and very busy) time taking off anf landing.The demo flight did just what you said plus it stopped auto generation of trees (I have autogen building turned off). I slewed until the blurries got really bad and autogen had ceased, then tried pausing the sim and/or stopping the slew (Numpad 5). I could then watch the textures clear up section by section, from background to foreground, then watch the trees "pop" into view from closeup to distant. It seemed to happen faster if I paused rather than just stopping the slewing.My system is an AMD Sempron 3500 @ 2 GHz with 2 GB of RAM and an ATI X1300 Pro w/ 256 MB running Win XP SP2 and FSX SP1.R-

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Okay, I suggest you forward this demo flight to tell-fs@microsoft.com or directly to Phil Taylor because that appears to be a good test case to reproduce the problems.Christian

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>I'm also puzzled by the fact that you stick with FS-X RTM. Not>trying out SP1 or Tileproxy. What are you affraid off?>Perhaps I'm not interested in devoting too many hours to simming at the moment...Besides, who cares if someone supposeably pointed out "all these blurries" in my FSX shots. FS9 still looks like a blurry heap of crap in comparison! :-lol Many regards,L.Adamson

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>>I'm also puzzled by the fact that you stick with FS-X RTM.>Not>>trying out SP1 or Tileproxy. What are you affraid off?>>>Perhaps I'm not interested in devoting too many hours to>simming at the moment...>>Besides, who cares if someone supposeably pointed out "all>these blurries" in my FSX shots. FS9 still looks like a blurry>heap of crap in comparison! :-lol >>Many regards,>>L.AdamsonThen maybe .... you may want to stay out of this conversation?

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>>>I'm also puzzled by the fact that you stick with FS-X RTM.>>Not>>>trying out SP1 or Tileproxy. What are you affraid off?>>>>>Perhaps I'm not interested in devoting too many hours to>>simming at the moment...>>>>Besides, who cares if someone supposeably pointed out "all>>these blurries" in my FSX shots. FS9 still looks like a>blurry>>heap of crap in comparison! :-lol >>>>Many regards,>>>>L.Adamson>>>Then maybe .... you may want to stay out of this>conversation?>You're right!There just isn't enough blurries down there... http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174267.jpg

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Larry,Why don't you try out the testflight thats posted here and try to do something positive to get this problem fixed.Sticking your fingers in your ears and continuing mindless FS-X cheerleading doesn't help us with the problems posted here.This is not the FS-X/FS-9/X-Plane/Flightgear is the greatest debate. I hoped we left those senseless discussions behind us.

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I don't know, that FS9 shot looks pretty good to me... :)

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This saved flight doesnt cause the same symptoms for one of our testers. Yes, he sees some blurries, but FSX does not "give up" because if one pauses the textures load.His machine spec was:CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz2046MB RAMRadeon X1900 SeriesHe both tried with his current fsx.cfg and with deleting the fsx.cfg and "resetting defaults" to change the settings.Even so, we are investigating further to see if this gives us a repro for Type 2 blurries, ignoring the giving up part.

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Note, if our tester changes texture resolution from 2m to 5m, the textures keep up.

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Yes, the texture keep up a little more with 5m textures. Ask the tester to turn off the auto gen, and keep the 2m textures. They will keep up also.Oh yes, Phil can you confirm this : "Something interesting to try. The FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION seems to be dysfunctional in FSX. Try changing from 0.01 to 0.33 to 0.70 to 0.90. Nor blurries or FPS are going to change. Maybe something in the Fiber Frame Time Fraction was accidentally broken ?" Look at this post for more details : http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...id=406033&page=

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By disabling autogen you postpone the arrival of blurries, in my case. Finallly it does come, especially turning near mountain edges and or land/water edges. The blurries become worse if you enable little bit of everything (slight autogen, slight trafiic, glass cockpit etc) Even if I were to believe the statement that there is no hardware that will run fsx with full sliders right, atleast there should be some hardware that will run it without blurries with full sliders left but with all features enabled(little bit of everything). I dont think there is such a hardware either.

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Yes, with 5m textures, they keep up... but that is sacrificing a lot!At 5m, the roads all have sawtooth edges.Then, I might as well stay with FS9, 1 Gig of memory and my old 128 Meg video card..It is the great 2m textures that make FSX shine !

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