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News from MS/Asobo today at 1200Z

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1 hour ago, Doering said:

I expect the addition of Meigs to be a huge success as this is where it all began with Bruce Artwick. Memories already!

Please do not for a Moment forget Stu as well!

Frank Patton
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7 minutes ago, Pochi said:

Yes, I am not at all excited by those trailer. It is for gamers 😉 

Realistic helicopters and gliders are for gamers? I don't follow 😛 

 

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43 minutes ago, somiller said:

Unfortunately 'bridges that are not solid structures all the way to the ground/water' is NOT part of that list.

Very probably because that list and that bit they did was about helicopters, and not about bridges (unless of course you're joking in which case that went completely over my head :||)
 

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1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
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35 minutes ago, somiller said:

Unfortunately 'bridges that are not solid structures all the way to the ground/water' is NOT part of that list.

This is also true: "It's the MAGIC of MFS... It can have a worth of incompletudes and limitations here & there but, at least so far, nothing can come even close to it.... I have to admit...

Why would that be part of the list? It's about helicopter mechanics.

I suspect it's just butthurt fans of the other sims coming in to start stuff. Ignoring them is the best thing. As MSFS continues to do bigger and better things, you can expect to see more and more of this.

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44 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Please do not for a Moment forget Stu as well!

Yes, the complete picture was a strong team between Bruce Artwick and Stu Moment.

Quote from a SubLogic site:

"In the summer of 1977, Bruce Artwick called college friend, Stu Moment. Stu was in the back of his home, a $49 per month trailer, enjoying some time away from his University of Illinois, Flight Instructor job as well as from college classes . . . building a model airplane in the back room.

Bruce wondered if Stu would be interested in taking on the business operations of subLogic. In July 1977 Bruce released "Three Dimensional Microcomputer Graphics" in the M6800 Assembly Language. Bruce was doing business out of a P.O. Box in Culver City, not far from where he worked as an Engineer at Hughes Aircraft"

I will likely do some sort of a historical video on Meigs when the 40th anniversary edition is released. 

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Probably that small because it's just a file telling the sim to load those cities.

Edited by Tuskin38

Did any of those cities look like they had melted buildings?

 

5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX  9070XT.

I haven't checked yet. But the melted look doesn't bother me because there's nothing they can do about it.

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2 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

The news/reveals about helicopter and glider simulation were especially great! ... Some bits I caught:

Helicopters:
- over 1000 surfaces simulated and other heli-specific physics
- complex airflow and creation of vortexes/turbulances/etc, and visualization of all this airflow possible
- translational lift (i.e. more lift when going forward)
- ground effect
- temperature effects on lift/climb
- 100hz (before) to 1000hz rotor spinning
- simulation of rotor flapping
- phase lag
- ring vortex

Gliders:
- tow plane or winch to launch up into air
- complex atmospheric airflow simulation, and interplay with terrain/weather/season/time-of-day/etc, can enable visualizations of all this, i.e. to more easily identify updrafts

Hopefully they'll dive deeper into this tech in a coming dev Q&A, especially the CFD enhanced atmospheric airflow and all other flight dynamics improvements in general. Hoping iniBuilds will also ramp up soon on the A310 deep dives they promised as we get closer to the 40th anniv release (that trailer was enticing!)

 

Thanks for the summary! I just watched the video myself and I have to say, if you live in Germany or you like flying in Germany, you are in for a nice treat with all that updated photogrammetry!

Also, the flight dynamics they showed with the helicopter looks amazing.  I really look forward to how the surrounding atmospheric airflow will affect the planes when SU 11 comes out.  The MSFS flight model is definitely getting better as time progresses, it's amazing the work that they did to advance the flight model.

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I went on the Spruce Goose in McMinnville in Oregon and it is huge! They're a bit cheeky charging like $20 or so to go into the flightdeck though. With it coming to FS2020 and for free it will hopefully be very well detailed and complex enough to satisfy those of us that enjoy a challenge.

6 minutes ago, shamrockflyer said:

I went on the Spruce Goose in McMinnville in Oregon and it is huge! They're a bit cheeky charging like $20 or so to go into the flightdeck though. With it coming to FS2020 and for free it will hopefully be very well detailed and complex enough to satisfy those of us that enjoy a challenge.

Like with most of their aircraft, they went to the actual plane and took 3D scans and reference photos.

 

Anyways, I don't have time to look at all the cities, but here's a part of Bonn in the sim vs how it appears in Bing Maps. I'm not using any mods that effect the trees.

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The water in the sim version isn't green enough. Totally unflyable. 

<kidding>

In all honesty, I think it looks pretty darn good. But I'm easy to please.

Happy to see Düsseldorf and Köln getting a facelift! Curious how the Kölner Dom will look as it's quite magnificent IRL. 

Verdammt, ich habe vergessen, Popcorn zu kaufen!

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1 hour ago, Doering said:

Yes, the complete picture was a strong team between Bruce Artwick and Stu Moment.

Quote from a SubLogic site:

"In the summer of 1977, Bruce Artwick called college friend, Stu Moment. Stu was in the back of his home, a $49 per month trailer, enjoying some time away from his University of Illinois, Flight Instructor job as well as from college classes . . . building a model airplane in the back room.

Bruce wondered if Stu would be interested in taking on the business operations of subLogic. In July 1977 Bruce released "Three Dimensional Microcomputer Graphics" in the M6800 Assembly Language. Bruce was doing business out of a P.O. Box in Culver City, not far from where he worked as an Engineer at Hughes Aircraft"

I will likely do some sort of a historical video on Meigs when the 40th anniversary edition is released. 

Thank you!  If you (plural) would wish to catch up with Stu here is a link:
https://www.facebook.com/people/Stu-Moment/100006570406747/

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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