XP12: the good, the bad, the ugly

[flying_carpet 657]

2 hours ago, Sethos said:

.... Those sorts of nagware pop-ups are obnoxious and shouldn't be present. 

But only if they come from LR. Not if they come from MS/Windows ... right?

[Gary1124 181]

On 9/13/2022 at 11:06 AM, Humpty said:

I feel LR should at least have trees with collision , this would be a great effect for heli riders trying to land in forest areas. 

I agree. Ground handling and emergencies are part of the flight environment. With pass-through objects people get sloppy on the ground. LR has it that way to boast performance but I believe they should code for object collision and have it switcheable either way if the user thinks his PC is up to it. It would be worth a fatter file.

[Gary1124 181]

12 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

For functionality and security reasons though.  Eventually, older versions of Windows will stop receiving security updates.  You don't want to be stuck on an older version of Windows without security updates.  In addition, for many people, upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 is free: https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-for-free.  Upgrading to XP 12 is not free.

I think you are making an insincere point, IMO.

Some people are running PCs on XP or 7 just to maintain compatability with favorite games. I considered installing XP on my huge D drive just to run CFS 2 and CFS 3.

[Sethos 4,297]

2 hours ago, flying_carpet said:

But only if they come from LR. Not if they come from MS/Windows ... right?

Again, you are just desperately deflecting because you simply can't handle criticism of X-Plane. This is the X-Plane section, talking about an X-Plane issue. Not about Microsoft, Apple or the price of tea in China. 

You example makes no sense either, so an operating system from a billion dollar company has some nagware, that means it's okay to have it in a completely unrelated flight simulator, case closed? 

Edited September 14, 2022 by Sethos

[flying_carpet 657]

12 hours ago, Sethos said:

Again, you are just desperately deflecting because you simply can't handle criticism of X-Plane. This is the X-Plane section, talking about an X-Plane issue. Not about Microsoft, Apple or the price of tea in China. 

You example makes no sense either, so an operating system from a billion dollar company has some nagware, that means it's okay to have it in a completely unrelated flight simulator, case closed? 

You're kidding, right? Case closed.

[HiFlyer 9,343]

15 hours ago, Sethos said:

Again, you are just desperately deflecting because you simply can't handle criticism of X-Plane. This is the X-Plane section, talking about an X-Plane issue. Not about Microsoft, Apple or the price of tea in China. 

You example makes no sense either, so an operating system from a billion dollar company has some nagware, that means it's okay to have it in a completely unrelated flight simulator, case closed? 

Nag-ware is called nagware for a reason, and is equally annoying no matter where it comes from.

Its not called Windows/MS nagware or even XP11 nagware, and few if any want any of it in their faces, especially when they did not knowingly acquiesce to it when first purchasing a product.

Its the reason people instantly sought workarounds, when Youtube abruptly started running ads. (regardless of the financials of that decision)

Its why the first ads in movie theatres were roundly booed, and to this day I put on my headphones and look down until they are over. I paid cash money for a movie I wanted to see, not to be a captive audience for whatever else.

I can almost guarantee that if enough people find them annoying (and probably even if they do not) some bored programmer will come up with some way to disable them with extreme prejudice, though even once they are gone, the bad taste will remain.

In other words, I understand what you are saying, even if others find it expedient to muddy the waters.

EDIT: (Heck, how many of us are using industrial strength ad-blockers on this selfsame forum, even as we speak?)

Edited September 15, 2022 by HiFlyer

[jcomm 5,890]

Me solved the problem right at the root level !!!  MFS is UNINSTALLED FOR GOOD !!! 🤣

Edited September 15, 2022 by jcomm

[flying_carpet 657]

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

Me solved the problem right at the root level !!!  MFS is UNINSTALLED FOR GOOD !!! 🤣

Ho DARE you???? 😅🤣 How many HD's (or even server farms) with backups of your gazillions of (former) flight sims do you have? 😁

[Baber20 1,438]

Is it weird that I am still keeping msfs installed just so I can appreciate Xplane 12 even more? I am not crazy am I ?

[jcomm 5,890]

4 minutes ago, Baber20 said:

Is it weird that I am still keeping msfs installed just so I can appreciate Xplane 12 even more? I am not crazy am I ?

🤣

[turbomax 3,268]

25 minutes ago, Baber20 said:

still keeping msfs installed just so I can appreciate Xplane 12 even more?

me too,  keeping XP12 installed as a fall back interim solution just for the few hours when MSFS is grounded by a Microsoft DRM quirk resulting in "Insert game disk or Quit". fortunately that got resolved over night.

Edited September 15, 2022 by turbomax

[Sethos 4,297]

Still really enjoy the natural lighting. I even tried installing ReShade and I simply couldn't do anything that I genuinely felt improved the look. Well done LR. 

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

16 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Still really enjoy the natural lighting. I even tried installing ReShade and I simply couldn't do anything that I genuinely felt improved the look. Well done LR. 

What’s the Caribbean look like? Or a nice sunny place? 

[Bjoern 1,153]

22 hours ago, Gary1124 said:

Some people are running PCs on XP or 7 just to maintain compatability with favorite games. I considered installing XP on my huge D drive just to run CFS 2 and CFS 3.

I was about to suggest switching to Linux to play any old game you want, but Microsoft's flight sims are one of the few exceptions where compatibility is really hit and miss. FSX, for instance, does not run at all thanks to some really exotic library used for rendering the user interface.

[turbomax 3,268]

7 minutes ago, Bjoern said:

FSX, for instance, does not run at all thanks to some really exotic library

ouch, that must be tough.