FSLTL - live traffic finally released

[mwilk 1,106]

4 minutes ago, Noel said:

I guess this is essentially AIG w/ an automated installer?  That screenshot of LAX looks like a nightmare on performance for my machine so hopefully one can control the density of AI, yes?

Yes, you can control how many AI you want to spawn.

[Phantoms 800]

8 hours ago, tgsweat said:

The biggest issue i see now is that the planes rarely depart, if at all.  I was at KDCA and had some, but then went to KATL and had none.  Planes would just sit in line and on the runway.  I think this is because if there is a plane taxiing at the other end of the runway or crossing it, they won't depart.  I'm ok with that but the planes taxi slowly and at busier airports like ATL, theres always a plane taxiing near the departing runway.  So the result is planes never departing and end up disappearing.  

This is a problem with AI in general at KATL. There are node problems with KATL that prevent takeoffs from some of the runways. If those are the runways in use then you will get no departures, but rather planes stacking up. This will affect any AI program you use, even MSFS stock AI. I think a couple other airports have these problems too. AIG posted about this in one of there first State of AI Traffic reports:

 

 

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Takeoffs

You will see some airports (Atlanta (WU) or Nice (WU)) where the AI will taxi into takeoff position but not depart and the next airplane will do the same, stacking up some airplanes. We tracked this issue down to some hold short nodes at the airports but are unable to solve this for all airports.

AI will not depart at KATL (Wolrd Update)

 

 

I do believe KAI stated that this problem does not affect the non-world update KATL, so you could always try disabling the WU version of KATL.

 

 

Edited September 30, 2022 by Phantoms

[Alvega 2,124]

41 minutes ago, Noel said:

I guess this is essentially AIG w/ an automated installer?  

No, it's not. This has better sounds, better lights, contrails, planes spawning at correct altitudes, traffic based on live real flights from Flightradar instead of old flight plans, takes half the time (or less) for the sim to load, etc. Very different from AIG, IMO.

 

[Tuskin38 6,499]

45 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

Notice a lack of Air Canada and Westjet Max's at YVR as well as no Jazz or Encore Q400's? Even with AIG installed, none of them are to be seen and they make up good percentage of YVR traffic. I know it's only day 1, hopefully it'll improve.

AIG doesn't have any ACA or WJA Maxes either.

 

  

1 minute ago, Alvega said:

No, it's not. This has better sounds, better lights, contrails, planes spawning at correct altitudes, traffic based on live real flights from Flightradar instead of old flight plans, takes half the time (or less) for the sim to load, etc. Very different from AIG, IMO.

 

But also missing a ton of airlines and several aircraft models.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Tuskin38

[blueshark747 1,843]

6 minutes ago, Alvega said:

No, it's not. This has better sounds, better lights, contrails, planes spawning at correct altitudes, traffic based on live real flights from Flightradar instead of old flight plans, takes half the time (or less) for the sim to load, etc. Very different from AIG, IMO.

 

Much less performance loss than AIG also

[skysurfer 76]

Not sure if this is FSLTL issue or something else. I uploaded FSLTL vmr into vPilot and now I am getting way more model matching errors then ever before. Pretty much most of the liveries are not recognized except PMDG and few Fenix once. 

[Alvega 2,124]

14 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

But also missing a ton of airlines and several aircraft models.

I don't know about "a ton". It's missing some liveries and models, yes, but they said they will be adding them with updates. Weighting the pros and cons, for me the choice is clear.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Alvega

[Tuskin38 6,499]

11 minutes ago, blueshark747 said:

Much less performance loss than AIG also

only because it's spawning less planes, which you can do in AIG by lowering the %spawned slider.

Edited September 30, 2022 by Tuskin38

[Cpt_Piett 4,648]

1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

FSLTL will spawn statics that aren't actually at the airport, but in this case with Hainan, they do operate to YVR and a B789 landed this afternoon.

That’s interesting, didn’t know that. I saw a few twin turboprops but didn’t pay too much attention to the airline or the aircraft model.

Yeah, it’s far from perfect. But I’d say more than good enough for a first edition. 

[Alvega 2,124]

12 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

only because it's spawning less planes, which you can do in AIG by lowering the %spawned slider.

Not only because of that but also because it uses native gITF models, which, AFAIK AIG doesn't.

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Built with glTF models for better performance, reduced stutters, and CTD avoidance.

 

Check the features on the bottom part of the page: https://www.fslivetrafficliveries.com/

Edited September 30, 2022 by Alvega

[Sky_Pilot071 580]

1 hour ago, mwilk said:

Yes, you can control how many AI you want to spawn.

And GA also.

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[Dave_YVR 973]

59 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

AIG doesn't have any ACA or WJA Maxes either.

They do in my custom setup. 😉  Either way they should still show up, they sure do with PSXT.

[toby23 138]

Just a quick note to my experience with this add-on...
It can only use LIVE data from FlightAware, not archived.

So, if you fly at 9am in the sim but it's actually 2am where you are flying, you might not see anything, e.g. Heathrow.

I can only fly in the evenings and am flying mainly in the UK and Europe, so this addon will not provide me with much AI unfortunately, YMMV
 

[mwilk 1,106]

9 minutes ago, toby23 said:

Just a quick note to my experience with this add-on...
It can only use LIVE data from FlightAware, not archived.

So, if you fly at 9am in the sim but it's actually 2am where you are flying, you might not see anything, e.g. Heathrow.

I can only fly in the evenings and am flying mainly in the UK and Europe, so this addon will not provide me with much AI unfortunately, YMMV
 

I was just thinking the same thing. I live in the US but I fly in Europe a lot. To have live traffic I'll have to do my flights before early afternoon. I guess I can use AIG for evening flights.

[C Schaffhausen 4]

I installed it yesterday and it works great! Is model matching working for the default multiplayer though?