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Anybody buy this? Can you tell me the fps impact on FSX? Systems, fms, fly-by-wire all work ok? I'm waiting for Dreamfleet's offering but that seems quite a ways off.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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Frame rate hit on the Wilco Airbus is about the same as the Level-D 767...substantial but survivable in FSX if you have a cutting edge system. I see frames in the low 20s with a Core 2 Extreme overclocked to 3.6GHz. Fly by wire is a bit rough...it's sluggish to the point of blowing past altitudes at level off, and will do something of a vertical hiyakka when flaps are set because it doesn't keep up with the pitch change. The fuel system is dorked, too...feed sequences are all wrong, shows center tank feeding with the center pumps off, etc etc.Without any real way of gauging how far away AXP's release is, it's hard to make a recommendation. Wilco's support is truly hideous, and FeelThere have just announced they are going to move all support for their Airbus product line into the Wilco black hole.Their 'bus flies OK for me, but only after after having had to modify the flight dynamics to fix excessive idle thrust, re-write the localizer/glideslope PID parameters, fix the pitch rate performance, and fix the inoperative speed brakes. And all this after three service packs now. If you're not good with panel and flight model modding you may be disappointed.If you can live for a while longer without an FSX Airbus to see what emerges with AXP, I would.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile


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Ok thanks for that Bob. Looks like a wait for me. I don't want to tinker excessively just to get flyability. I know with the 777 FeelThere has referred all support to Wilco and shut down their support forum.

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Yup - and the just did the same with the Airbus! Pathetic.....Cheers,S


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Hi, Bob, is possible to have access to your improved Flight Dynamic (like you did with the PSS heavy buses)?Thanks.Miquel Egea.

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>Frame rate hit on the Wilco Airbus is about the same as the>Level-D 767...substantial but survivable in FSX if you have a>cutting edge system. I see frames in the low 20s with a Core>2 Extreme overclocked to 3.6GHz. Fly by wire is a bit>rough...it's sluggish to the point of blowing past altitudes>at level off, and will do something of a vertical hiyakka when>flaps are set because it doesn't keep up with the pitch>change. The fuel system is dorked, too...feed sequences are>all wrong, shows center tank feeding with the center pumps>off, etc etc.>>Without any real way of gauging how far away AXP's release is,>it's hard to make a recommendation. Wilco's support is truly>hideous, and FeelThere have just announced they are going to>move all support for their Airbus product line into the Wilco>black hole.>>Their 'bus flies OK for me, but only after after having had to>modify the flight dynamics to fix excessive idle thrust,>re-write the localizer/glideslope PID parameters, fix the>pitch rate performance, and fix the inoperative speed brakes. >And all this after three service packs now. If you're not>good with panel and flight model modding you may be>disappointed.>>If you can live for a while longer without an FSX Airbus to>see what emerges with AXP, I would.>>Regards>>Bob Scott>ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V>Santiago de ChileYep thats the case :-)Andr


 

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>Hi, Bob, is possible to have access to your improved Flight>Dynamic (like you did with the PSS heavy buses)?>>Thanks.>>Miquel Egea.Miquel; I thought long and hard on this one, and regrettably, I just can't. As much as I know it would help out other users of a defective product, I can't stomach the idea that I would be facilitating the developer's continued misbehavior. With the PSS example back in 2003, there simply were no other options for a decent flyable Airbus, so I sat down and designed...from scratch...a new set of FDE for that model. It was as much then a challenge to prove that it could be done as it was anything else. And to show the developer that it could be done much better than the really rotten FDE they kept defending...and by a first-time amateur at that. My alternative A330-340 FDE for the PSS Scarebus heavies was my first complete FDE project. I am going to leave fixing the FeelThere 'bus, at least beyond the help I've already given and had cast aside, to the motley crew behind the scenes at FeelThere. Or to the motley crew at AXP. Or the motley crew at AirSimmer. Or PMDG. Lots of other options coming up fast for those who don't feel compelled to settle for mediocrity in the short term.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile


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