48 minutes ago, espent said:

I don’t remember thermodynamics class, but if you use 500watts it will generate 500watts worth of heat. The fact that the cooling on the die is better just means that the heat is transferred quicker to your case/room. 

@turbomax I see that you liked my post, but it was written as a disagreement to your comment that the room would not get warmer because the chip is colder. 
 

THe PCB on the 4090 is not really bigger than the board on the 1080. All the extra volume is only there to transport the heat away from the chip. 
if they used the same cooling as on the 3090 card the temp would be much higher. Meaning that it uses more power. The power recommendations are also that you need a bigger PSU. Bigger PSU means warmer room. 

2 hours ago, jimcarrel said:

It will easily heat the room  floor house neighborhood that it is in. (for a nominal fee).

I also see a run on new, larger cases....I hope the case makers are ready for the uptick in sales of full size cases. 🥴  Not to mention 1000+ Power supplies.  That is if sales of the 4090 go bananas.  I've already pounced on a 3090 for $650 US (new) from a guy I know who has to have the latest/greatest.

A 3090 is going to do me fine after getting used to a 2070 for all this time. 🙂 

Wow those are big GPUs (even the 4080)…and I thought my 2080ti was big.  Time to go measure the spare room in my case.

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I wonder how many people have a decent cpu and 4090 In time for 17 oct. My system won’t be released until oct 20 (13900k release date). 

I'm still wondering if the 13900k will outperform the 5800X3D in MSFS.  If you have done that research let me know.  I do know the L3 cache is smaller on the 13900K, but will its raw instructions-per-clock push it past the 5800X3D in real-world MSFS performance?

2 minutes ago, Mace said:

I'm still wondering if the 13900k will outperform the 5800X3D in MSFS.  If you have done that research let me know.  I do know the L3 cache is smaller on the 13900K, but will its raw instructions-per-clock push it past the 5800X3D in real-world MSFS performance?

Yeah that’s the gamble I’m about to take, I was tempted by the 5800X3D to be honest but I fancy a future proofed DDR5 system so 13900K it is…

2 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Wow those are big GPUs (even the 4080)…and I thought my 2080ti was big.  Time to go measure the spare room in my case.

The 4-series GPU's are a regression in terms of size.  Remember the early 90's graphics cards?  Anyone over 40 remembers them.  They were massive in size and had mem chips each 16KB in size on the PCB....heh.   It's like the cards I had to deal with when I was 16 years old, building a PC in my friends basement.

1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Yeah that’s the gamble I’m about to take, I was tempted by the 5800X3D to be honest but I fancy a future proofed DDR5 system so 13900K it is…

Oh yes.  I forgot about the DDR5 thing.  That is a major factor that I wasn't thinking about when I posted.  I have done some testing of ram speed vs. real MSFS results and it does matter.  A week or two ago I did look at the DDR5 and that was indeed kind of an "x-factor" in the whole 13900K vs. 5800X3D thing.

DDR5 is still in its infancy though. There’s been some reports of issues running in XMP configuration and using 4 modules. 

Well, it’s October 12 where I’m at. No cards in sight though 🔭

Edited October 11, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett

13 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

DDR5 is still in its infancy though. There’s been some reports of issues running in XMP configuration and using 4 modules. 

Well, it’s October 12 where I’m at. No cards in sight though 🔭

They’re released 2pm BST I believe. 12 oct. 

2 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I wonder how many people have a decent cpu and 4090 In time for 17 oct. My system won’t be released until oct 20 (13900k release date). 

What is your mission with telling everyone in every single thread which system you are going to buy ? 

2 hours ago, espent said:

I see that you liked my post, but it was written as a disagreement to your comment that the room would not get warmer because the chip is colder. 

because you were right, and I was wrong. happens all the time 😀

The 3060TI is all my solar array can support at this time.

Besides it run MSFS just fine.

sp

Edited October 11, 20223 yr by Sky_Pilot071

2 hours ago, Mace said:

I'm still wondering if the 13900k will outperform the 5800X3D in MSFS.  If you have done that research let me know.  I do know the L3 cache is smaller on the 13900K, but will its raw instructions-per-clock push it past the 5800X3D in real-world MSFS performance?

It will be a vast improvement over yours and my current CPU, 13900K that is, and presumably 5800x3D as well.  If 13900K can run all performance cores at 5.8-6.0gHz I'm looking at roughly a 50% increase over my 9900K at 4.9gHz. 

4 hours ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Honestly, I am kind of concerned about the actual wall electrical receptacle.  At 120V, these cards can peak around 8 amps. So that gives me about 13-14 amps real load (not peak or startup).

120V x 8 amps would be 960 Watt, but NVidia recommends "only" a 850 watt PSU for the complete pc. only 7 amps instead of 14, so not as dramatic imho.

Edited October 12, 20223 yr by turbomax

My 3090s are still fast enough and I use TAA, so DSLL 2 or 3  is not that interesting to me.

In the far distance TAA looks sharper on my 4K displays…