6 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

But although I've ordered a 1600w ps for the new rig

make sure it adheres to the new PCIe 5 standard für PSUs:

https://pcper.com/2022/09/a-general-overview-of-pcie-5-0-power-supplies-details-thanks-to-msi/

https://www.techpowerup.com/299196/seasonic-announces-the-vertex-atx-3-0-and-pcie-5-0-ready-psu-line

 

 

7 minutes ago, turbomax said:

make sure it adheres to the new PCIe 5 standard für PSU

Oh good! something else to check for. I hadn't checked this but have gotten back to the supplier to ask them (I'd ordered an EVGA Supernova Platinum supply). Not entirely sure of the implications - is this all about the connections for the GPU (reduce the number of cables etc)?

Thanks for the note though.

20 minutes ago, turbomax said:

make sure it adheres to the new PCIe 5 standard für PSUs:

https://pcper.com/2022/09/a-general-overview-of-pcie-5-0-power-supplies-details-thanks-to-msi/

https://www.techpowerup.com/299196/seasonic-announces-the-vertex-atx-3-0-and-pcie-5-0-ready-psu-line

 

 

According to Corsair it doesn’t need to? 
https://www.corsair.com/newsroom/press-release/ready-to-go-beyond-fast-corsair-announces-compatibility-for-nvidia-40-series-graphics-cards?amp=1

looks like Nvidia was wrong, the Beta is out now.

Edited October 12, 20223 yr by Tuskin38

That is one hell of a change log. 

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

According to Corsair it doesn’t need to? 
https://www.corsair.com/newsroom/press-release/ready-to-go-beyond-fast-corsair-announces-compatibility-for-nvidia-40-series-graphics-cards?amp=1

Yeah I was under the impression it's not necessary to get a PCIe 5 PSU. I don't have a link though. 

5 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

According to Corsair it doesn’t need to? 

true, if you already have a minimum 850 watt PSU you can continue to use it with the RTX 4000s. but if you need a new PSU why buy old technology when the more future proof PCIe 5 version is already available. the main advantage is they can cope better with those extreme over-current load spikes caused by the RTX 3000 generation. the RTX 4000 family is less affected, supposedly.

Edited October 13, 20223 yr by turbomax

7 hours ago, andy1252 said:

is this all about the connections for the GPU (reduce the number of cables etc)?

https://www.igorslab.de/en/atx-3-0-vs-pcie-5-0-error-misunderstanding-or-compromise-with-hindsight/

Hardware unboxed have done a review of this now.

 

 

2 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

Hardware unboxed have done a review of this now.

Good video! They also touch on one of the crucial points with DLSS 3: It improves the framerate but the latency is the same as with native rendering. This can be nice for visual smoothness, but in competitive gaming the reason you want to achieve high framerates is the latency. Same goes for VR headsets: You need high framerates so that the delay between the movement of your head and the image is as low as possible in order to avoid motion sickness. 

This doesn't mean DLSS 3 is bad, just keep in mind that it doesn't solve all framerate related issues. 

Edited October 13, 20223 yr by pstrub

Great video. It gives a true picture of the technology and they have spent a lot of time and effort putting the video together.

So it as we thought, it is a kind of frame interpolation but trying to reduce input lag.

It is new technology, and we have to give it a chance, but it doesn't impress me too much, because some of the interpolated frames, as shown by the video, are a mess.

The long and short of it is, if you have poor frame rates it will double them, but you will see ghosting and artifacts due to the frame time and poor quality interpolated frames, but if you already have high frame rates you probably won't notice them. 

But if you already have high frame rates where the artifacts won't be so prominent, you probably don't need the frame interpolation anyway, so...

As we all know, there is no substitute for raw horse power.  At least the 4000 series seem to be about 40% better than the equivalent 3000 models in this regard.

For DLSS3, this video is all you need. Very comprehensive and in depth

 

37 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

The long and short of it is, if you have poor frame rates it will double them, but you will see ghosting and artifacts due to the frame time and poor quality interpolated frames, but if you already have high frame rates you probably won't notice them. 

Yeah, they showed some annoying artifacts in MSFS from the GUI overlay, but I guess that's just due to the beta status of the DLSS3 implementation in MSFS. I guess it's normal to get some level of artifacts from the frame interpolation, but the ones shown in the video can probably be fixed by Asobo, I wouldn't be surprised to see them fixed by the release of SU11 / 40th anniversary edition.

On 10/12/2022 at 10:10 PM, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Nice I went for a 7950X on a GIGABYTE X670 GAMING X AX and 32GB Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 6000MHz

I have some interesting finding here

regards M.

 

 

 

You can’t expect higher fps + better image quality at the same time.

Normally if one goes up the other goes down.