Frames dropping over Denmark | Manipulators

[CallsignDE 37]

Hello,

i have severe perfomance problems but ONLY in Denmark airspace.
It does not matter if DX11 or 12 or which settings, i am getting 40+ at nearly every airport but while beeing in the air over Denmark airspace, fps dropping to 25-30 with MainThread beeing red and Manipulators going hugely up.
I've never installed any addon or anything in Denmark, so i have no idea where this is coming from. When crossing from south to north frames dropping starts near of Hamburg. 

Does anyone have or had the same problem? I've done some research what Manipulators means but couldnt find any solution. 

Specs: i7-10700k on 4,8Ghz, 3080

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by CallsignDE

[bobcat999 8,477]

This used to be an issue at various points around the globe until they solved it (back in 2021 I think).  I had particular problems around Salzburg which are solved now.

You could always raise a ticket or create a thread on the official forums.

[ThomseN_inc 1,128]

Interesting! I just had two CTD about ten minutes out of Copenhagen. 

And i hat that weird FPS issue some days ago flying in norwegian airpace.

 

Edit: No scenery mods installed.. FBW320 and the HJET only.

Edited October 31, 2022 by ThomseN_inc

[Fielder 3,671]

This has been discussed for a long time. Even Shakespeare. 

[ThomseN_inc 1,128]

4 minutes ago, Fielder said:

This has been discussed for a long time. Even Shakespeare. 

so?

[Fielder 3,671]

That is the question.

[MichaelLowl 63]

14 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

This used to be an issue at various points around the globe until they solved it (back in 2021 I think).  I had particular problems around Salzburg which are solved now.

You could always raise a ticket or create a thread on the official forums.

I still have the stutter fest in Salzburg using Lows from DD. How have you solved it may I ask?

Regards

Michael

[Cpt_Piett 4,641]

20 hours ago, CallsignDE said:

I've never installed any addon or anything in Denmark, so i have no idea where this is coming from.

Perhaps try without any addons, just to be sure nothing else in the community folder is causing this.

[bobcat999 8,477]

3 hours ago, MichaelLowl said:

I still have the stutter fest in Salzburg using Lows from DD. How have you solved it may I ask?

Regards

Michael

I also have that LOWS.  The stuttering / manipulator error happened whether it was installed or not (default MSFS airport), so I don't think it was that.
Turning right after a north take off gave particular problems if I remember.  I could circuit to the right and reproduce the problem every time.
Last time I flew from Zell- am-see to Salzburg a few months ago I didn't have the problem and it was perfectly smooth. 
I will try that route again tonight (in my new Iris PC-21 that I am loving! ) and I will report back.

The manipulators issue for me stopped after an update quite a while ago.  Asobo found the issue and fixed it. 
One small airfield in the middle of the US actually brought most people to their knees (3 to 4 fps) and this was a critical clue that helped in Asobo solve it.   

One thing...  I had a third party mesh installed for the alps.  I deleted it as the Asobo mesh is reasonably good anyway after the world update for the area.
Some add-on meshes for the alps were known to cause problems after a sim update a while ago.  The Orbx meshes were recompiled for example to stop this problem.

[Cpt_Piett 4,641]

1 hour ago, bobcat999 said:

One thing...  I had a third party mesh installed for the alps.  I deleted it as the Asobo mesh is reasonably good anyway after the world update for the area.
Some add-on meshes for the alps were known to cause problems after a sim update a while ago.  The Orbx meshes were recompiled for example to stop this problem.

I tried some freeware mesh for Austria a while ago that absolutely brought my system to it's knees. The Orbx ones are very good though. I have a DEM20 for Norway too which is excellent without any performance issues. 

[CallsignDE 37]

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Perhaps try without any addons, just to be sure nothing else in the community folder is causing this.

I've already done this. Nothing changed 😞

Edited November 1, 2022 by CallsignDE

[MPL 30]

I also noticed loss of frames when i was passing over Copenhagen into southern Sweden and further into Norway, sim just wasn't as fluent as before. This behaviour continued to Oslo where i landed. No clue what is causing this, my community-folder is full of Norwegian sceneries, maybe one of them is causing this. Have to test with empty folder though.

Edited November 1, 2022 by MPL

[TexasGary 47]

I have also had this problem, but only at one very specific location in Texas.  Whenever I get within 2 miles of KETN for landing on runway 17 my frames always drop significantly.  If I approach from the south and land on runway 35 I dont lose any frames, smooth as silk.  I tried clearing the community folder, changing graphic settings, and caching the area around KETN.  The only thing I found that helped was lowering Texture Synthesis to Medium from High.  On Medium I dont experience the frame drops.  I am going to put in a ticket and cross my fingers that they can fix it in a future update.

[Bunchy 227]

On 10/31/2022 at 12:51 PM, CallsignDE said:

Hello,

i have severe perfomance problems but ONLY in Denmark airspace.
It does not matter if DX11 or 12 or which settings, i am getting 40+ at nearly every airport but while beeing in the air over Denmark airspace, fps dropping to 25-30 with MainThread beeing red and Manipulators going hugely up.
I've never installed any addon or anything in Denmark, so i have no idea where this is coming from. When crossing from south to north frames dropping starts near of Hamburg. 

Does anyone have or had the same problem? I've done some research what Manipulators means but couldnt find any solution. 

Specs: i7-10700k on 4,8Ghz, 3080

 

I see the same degradation over Southern Sweden. 

Tried with PG on and off but this didn't improve FPS. 

I have mine locked at 30 but in Denmark/Southern Sweden I see a drop to 25/27 FPS. 

FPS had recovered to 30 by the time I landed at ESSA.

 

Stu

Edited November 2, 2022 by Bunchy