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Can you tell which one is HDR?

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I got a new HDR1000 monitor a few weeks ago and have been loving playing HDR games, everything looks fantastic. So I decided to fire up MSFS after a few months hiatus to try it out. However I'm confused because I honestly can't tell the difference bettwen HDR10 on and HDR10 off. Can you tell which is which? Anyone else run into this problem and found a solution?

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(first, off)
(second, on)

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Just now, David Mills said:

Honestly, no.

glad to hear! was worried i was going bling and missing the obvious 😄 

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The one that says HDR on is the one where HDR is on and the one that says HDR off is the one with HDR off?

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I have a HDR 10 LG C1 and I don't see a huge difference either. The main difference I find is in night lighting where lights and strobes appear brighter against a dark background.

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Funny to read a thread about high DYNAMIC(!) range and someone asking for a difference between two STATIC(!) screenshots. If you make a video, I am pretty sure most would be able to tell the difference...

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Not surprisingly, on my iPad they look the same. I don’t think you can just take a screen shot of HDR and share it here and expect the difference to be visible. 

But also make sure you are using the Windows HDR utility to calibrate the white point to the max luminosity of your display. Your settings or lack of proper settings could be creating a tone map that doesn’t take full advantage of your display.  

Then look for blown out highlights vs more definition in the highlights… like the sun and clouds lit up by the sun.  

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50 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Funny to read a thread about high DYNAMIC(!) range and someone asking for a difference between two STATIC(!) screenshots. If you make a video, I am pretty sure most would be able to tell the difference...

 

Its got nothing to do with moving images, I suppose, you've never heard of HDR photography?

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Are those screenshots?  If the image is enhanced on your HDR monitor, then it won't show on screenshots.  They are grabbed on your PC before the image is sent to your monitor for enhancement.

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There is a known bug with HDR not activating in the sim properly with SU10. Try Alt-Entering to go to windowed. move the window on your screen and then Alt-Enter again. This should re-enable HDR. Its fixed in SU11

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3 hours ago, dresoccer4 said:

glad to hear! was worried i was going bling and missing the obvious 😄 

Have you tried the trick of alt+entering to go into windowed mode, moving the window slightly (you will see HDR kick in) then go back to full screen?

I think they fixed this in SU11 but SU10 to see HDR you have to go through above process.


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I'm assuming that you have HDR set in the Windows graphics settings and in msfs.

W11 does handle HDR much better than W10


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Why don’t you simply press WIN + ALT + B while running the sim and you can simply compare it instantly?

 

On my LG OLED HDR makes a huge difference. Especially at night / dark scenes. 

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44 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

HDR, when working, is noticeably better even on my HDR400 monitor.

Like I said earlier though, if a lot of the processing is being done on the HDR monitor, how can a screenshot (taken from the PC image before being sent to the monitor) be expected to show the full HDR effect being displayed by the monitor?  Am I missing something or being stupid?  :smile:


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I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio!

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