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Side-to-side rocking behavior in MSFS: how realistic is it??

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The kind of turbulence experience I got on the flight below is different. But I am running FS Realistic if that matters. And, indeed, there is also a bit of the yaw-turbulence which I noticed only after reading this thread.

 

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I think this vid I found on youtube is good presentation of light to moderate turbulence . Note at 0:27 a nice little bump. Back in a days one of my flying buddy  hit cockpit ceiling after one of those bumps . Next day he showed for a flight with extra layer of makeshift rubber padding on top of his headset  LOL

 

 

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2 hours ago, tgsweat said:

This. I don't think the turbulence is the issue.  Its had this twitchy side to side tail behavior since day one.  


To nail down if it's a FM issue or core sim issue that effects *all* aircraft, would be good for those experiencing this side-to-side to list which exact aircraft they're experiencing this in.  As for myself, like Bob, don't see it in the ones I regularly fly like the Milviz C310 or Fenix A320
 

Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD

1 minute ago, lwt1971 said:


To nail down if it's a FM issue or core sim issue that effects *all* aircraft, would be good for those experiencing this side-to-side to list which exact aircraft they're experiencing this in.  As for myself, like Bob, don't see it in the ones I regularly fly like the Milviz C310 or Fenix A320
 

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Everything else I fly are airliners where the twitchiness in yaw is less noticeable.

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7 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I think this vid I found on youtube is good presentation of light to moderate turbulence . Note at 0:27 a nice little bump. Back in a days one of my flying buddy  hit cockpit ceiling after one of those bumps . Next day he showed for a flight with extra layer of makeshift rubber padding on top of his headset  LOL

 

 

your story reminds me of one of my first flights in a C152... I ended up with my Jeppesen airman handbook stamped on my left cheek after my instructor and I hit "moderate" turbulence... no more lose items after that day

Enrique Vaamonde

16 minutes ago, flyingpauls said:

The kind of turbulence experience I got on the flight below is different. But I am running FS Realistic if that matters. And, indeed, there is also a bit of the yaw-turbulence which I noticed only after reading this thread.

What's a bit interesting, is that the Vertigo also has incorporated CFD in it's flight model. And I think the excessive yaw movement is very pronounced in the Vertigo as well. 

I tried to ask the dev of the Sting about this in that other thread, but I think my question went unnoticed. 

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2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have flown several aircraft in MSFS, the Carenado Mooney, The Arrow 3, The Kodiak, The Seminole, The Fenix A 320, and the Milvix 310. I have never had the tail "twitch" from side to side.  What am I doing wrong? 

Fly a CFD-enabled airplane and get back to me.  

Rhett

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31 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:


To nail down if it's a FM issue or core sim issue that effects *all* aircraft, would be good for those experiencing this side-to-side to list which exact aircraft they're experiencing this in.  As for myself, like Bob, don't see it in the ones I regularly fly like the Milviz C310 or Fenix A320
 

It appears to be only in the CFD-enabled airplanes.  At least in my experience.  

Like I said...there's a lot still to be developed as to CFD.

Rhett

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53 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I think this vid I found on youtube is good presentation of light to moderate turbulence . Note at 0:27 a nice little bump. Back in a days one of my flying buddy  hit cockpit ceiling after one of those bumps . Next day he showed for a flight with extra layer of makeshift rubber padding on top of his headset  LOL

That's normally what I see as light with light chop days😁. But that darn G5/G550 large wing design makes you hit every bump in the road and exaggerate it a little🤣

1 hour ago, Mace said:

Fly a CFD-enabled airplane and get back to me.  

What the heck is CFD?

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

What the heck is CFD?

Another thing that nobody had heard of before an Asobo dev diary and now it's making the rounds on all the forums and Reddit as being a huge, amazing gamechanger.

Jury's still out on if it is.

17 minutes ago, mspencer said:

Another thing that nobody had heard of before an Asobo dev diary and now it's making the rounds on all the forums and Reddit as being a huge, amazing gamechanger.

Jury's still out on if it is.

CFD also means new parameters that have to be figured out, the "figured out" part is the headache. Just as most new parameters are.

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2 minutes ago, jimcarrel said:

CFD also provides also mean new parameters that have to be figured out, the "figured out" part is the headache. Just as most new parameters are.

It must be like " FTDP".  

 

 

 

2 hours ago, G550flyer said:

That's normally what I see as light with light chop days😁. But that darn G5/G550 large wing design makes you hit every bump in the road and exaggerate it a little🤣

On our end of light GA fleer we don't get to enjoy chops. More like bumpy waves LOL

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1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

What the heck is CFD?


TLDR: Flight modelling using Computational Fluid Dynamics calculations/simulation. A feature >=SU9 that can be used in developing flight models for aircraft. Coming in SU11, Asobo is also employing it in simulating atmospheric airflow, thermals, turbulence, etc.

See FSReborn developer's (Sting S4) and iniBuilds devs' thoughts on it below given their use of it in their aircraft... here's a list of current aircraft that use it: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-propeller-cfd-soft-body-simulation-airplane-list/504719/100

 

 

 

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