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MFG Rudder pedals, physically dont recenter, damper, setting

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6 hours ago, Chunk said:

That damper setting, combined with how little spring tension you have on the main spring is your issue.  I have my damper at two clicks, and here's a photo showing my spring tension in relation to the front adjustment knob.  This goes back to center with no issue, and the damper makes it buttery smooth.  FWIW, I think the damper is a game changer with the feel of the pedals.

...and I can see that I need to do some dusting...😄

 

So by tightening the spring that much, that makes the pedals harder to push and more centered on release?   I guess damper of 2 makes sense or would have, now i have to wait to get that part that i broke to reattach the damper.

I can see how stronger damper settings make sense for combat, or dcs.

Right now without the damper and my lesser spring setting, i kinda like the feel so far.

Did you leave the brakes setting at the default that it was set to when the mfgs came new?

 

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53 minutes ago, theskyisthelimit said:

 

Did you leave the brakes setting at the default that it was set to when the mfgs came new?

 

Try this, please. As I mentioned I did not use their calibration software, just reset to defaults and use windows and this will help a lot.

 

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1 hour ago, theskyisthelimit said:

So by tightening the spring that much, that makes the pedals harder to push and more centered on release?   I guess damper of 2 makes sense or would have, now i have to wait to get that part that i broke to reattach the damper.

I can see how stronger damper settings make sense for combat, or dcs.

Right now without the damper and my lesser spring setting, i kinda like the feel so far.

Did you leave the brakes setting at the default that it was set to when the mfgs came new?

 

I haven’t touched anything on the software side after calibrating them when I installed the damper. No curves, and no deadzone.

The pedals aren’t that hard to push, even with that spring tension. The biggest benefit of the damper is that they don’t snap back to center like they dod prior to the damper, and it’s easier to control small movements yawing to either side. It’s more noticeable in GA planes when the weather gets rough. 

FWIW, I use them in MSFS, IL-2, DCS, Falcon 4.0 BMS, and Cliffs of Dover. Went to the Crosswinds from CH Pedals, and it’s a night and day difference. 

While I like mine a lot I find the pedals somewhat hard to push. The brakes I mean. The angle is weird and despite attempting to adjust numerous times I can’t find something that feels natural. They seem like they sit too high. But I still like them 

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The pedals have so many adjustment variables I find it hard to believe you can't find a setting to fit. Maybe you've got your feet on the wrong way round. 😉

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1 hour ago, Ron Attwood said:

The pedals have so many adjustment variables I find it hard to believe you can't find a setting to fit. Maybe you've got your feet on the wrong way round. 😉

The pedals themselves are higher off the ground than I would like. Hard to adjust that 

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2 hours ago, micstatic said:

The pedals themselves are higher off the ground than I would like. Hard to adjust that 

2 short planks

 

2 hours ago, micstatic said:

The pedals themselves are higher off the ground than I would like. Hard to adjust that 

2 minutes ago, Pathfinder633 said:

2 short planks

...that are placed under your chair to raise it.

Unless @Pathfinder633 is just being rude. 😜

 

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Does anyone know if there are 3d prints out there of that front piece that i broke that came with the damper that are strong to be printed, or sent to an online printer to print?  I havent gotten a response back from MFG directly just yet on getting one sent out.

 

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On 12/14/2022 at 5:19 PM, F737MAX said:

...that are placed under your chair to raise it.

Unless @Pathfinder633 is just being rude. 😜

 

Nooo, under the moving parts of the pedals so your heels and hence rest of your feet are higher up to match the pedal height (unless the problem is knees hitting underside of desk in which case this is no he

On 12/13/2022 at 12:26 AM, theskyisthelimit said:

Here is a shot of the pedals from a physical standpoint:

(still cant figure out how to attach a photo):

https://photos.app.goo.gl/obXiKJjA6MCbaXqRA 

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Your image above

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My image.

Your assembly does not look the same to me.  Are your pedals older?  Mine are Crosswind 3's.  Look at the rear bar.  I have more fastener heads (chrome) showing.  You have some form of cam on top of that rear crossbar between the crossbar and the rear mount of the dampner.  I have a bushing (hollow standoff) there as weil as one at the front bar there to keep the damper level and up off the bars to keep it from binding. 

I got my dampner from Amazon because Mfg was backordered forever on them.  But it is an exact match to what Mfg sells.  By design the dampner is a standard motorcycle steering dampner.  I believe it should be mounted at an angle as you see in my instance.  You have it dead straight from front to back and that likely causes it to bind in use.  I also got local hardware to match the Mfr hardware listed in their pdfs. 

The dampner does work very well and is not some gimmick.

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2 hours ago, fppilot said:

 

Your image above

 

My image.

Your assembly does not look the same to me.  Are your pedals older?  Mine are Crosswind 3's.  Look at the rear bar.  I have more fastener heads (chrome) showing.  You have some form of cam on top of that rear crossbar between the crossbar and the rear mount of the dampner.  I have a bushing (hollow standoff) there as weil as one at the front bar there to keep the damper level and up off the bars to keep it from binding. 

I got my dampner from Amazon because Mfg was backordered forever on them.  But it is an exact match to what Mfg sells.  By design the dampner is a standard motorcycle steering dampner.  I believe it should be mounted at an angle as you see in my instance.  You have it dead straight from front to back and that likely causes it to bind in use.  I also got local hardware to match the Mfr hardware listed in their pdfs. 

The dampner does work very well and is not some gimmick.

I just bought the pedals and the damper kit direct.

Many said installing the damper in a straight back to front was a better arrangement and in his videos on the mfg site this is how he shows installing it.  Its why the piece in the front looks different.  But alas, i snapped my front piece and its broke so now the damper just hangs there for now.  I've not heard back yet from him on getting that piece replaced..

Heres a pic of the damage (sorry it was out of focus, not sure how to resize on here):

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14 minutes ago, theskyisthelimit said:

Heres a pic of the damage (sorry it was out of focus, not sure how to resize on here):

I cannot see your damage, unfortunately.  It appears he has changed some elements.  My CW3's with dampner do not have that triangular or three-sided piece that I earlier referred to as a cam.  But I now see three fasteners in that piece, indicating it is kept stationary.  Just cannot then see what purpose it serves.  Your image also appears to show the dampner mounted flush to the rear plate.  I followed his earlier design and my dampner is spaced up away from the surfaces of the pedals, eliminating any binding or interference.  Also, I worked in the motorcycle industry for 25 years before retiring, and never saw a dampner installed in a position where it operated straight through like that.  They are always mounted at an angle so they will not bind. 

Could you imagine starting a race bike into a corner at 150 MPH and have the dampner bind and lock the steering?

Is your dampner mounted with the strength valve mounted straight up?  See how mine is mounted so it is to the side?  My installation is a direct copy of what he showed on his web site a year ago.  Makes me wonder, given his long backorder on the dampner kit at the time, if he has had to now source totally different components, thus a new design.

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