I understand that to please everyone it would be nice to have a working SAS/autopilot, personally I couldn't care less it's not a common system in the real aircraft, and the whole fun of flying a JetRanger for me is hand-flying the bird.

My biggest disappointed is:

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Due to limitations of the sim right now, you will have to use a mouse or VR controller for the throttle.

We have to wait for a proper bidding code in a future update.

Edited December 24, 20223 yr by polosim

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Due to limitations of the sim right now, you will have to use a mouse or VR controller for the throttle.

This I do not understand. Is the throttle from the Cabri different from the Bell helicopters? The Cabri throttle can be binded to the propeller pitch axis.

1 minute ago, bvdboomen said:

This I do not understand. Is the throttle from the Cabri different from the Bell helicopters? The Cabri throttle can be binded to the propeller pitch axis.

I had the same thought…that seems a bit strange.

9 hours ago, bvdboomen said:

This I do not understand. Is the throttle from the Cabri different from the Bell helicopters? The Cabri throttle can be binded to the propeller pitch axis.

I was wondering if the issue was to do with ensuring the Idle Stop function worked properly when the throttle is tied to an axis (a problem with the Flyinside 206)

Edited December 24, 20223 yr by Matchstick

On 12/24/2022 at 3:06 PM, bvdboomen said:

This I do not understand. Is the throttle from the Cabri different from the Bell helicopters? The Cabri throttle can be binded to the propeller pitch axis.

If found this on the official MS forum:

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the issue is likely combining throttle with condition lever behavior for the turboshaft - that’s essentially what throttle does during turboshaft startup. Cabri helicopter throttle doesn’t have that, it’s a piston engine.

That could explain why the Cabri is different from this 206 and the MD 407 regarding throttle binding.

There are almost no videos on the MFS Cowan 206.

I would like to decide between this one and the FlyInside....

Any hints really welcome!

59 minutes ago, cagarini said:

There are almost no videos on the MFS Cowan 206.

I would like to decide between this one and the FlyInside....

Any hints really welcome!

I only have the Cowan, but from what I gather the Flyinside is a bit better as far as the engine modeling. The Cowan flys convincingly to my senses, but then again I’m not a real world rotor pilot but have ridden in a few medevac 206’s, 407’s and A-stars. I’m sure it’s like the other planes where if we ask 100 helo pilots we will get some who say it’s good and others who say it’s not.

with that said, I will say the exterior textures on the Cowan are not amazing. They work but feel a bit behind other helicopters of a similar price point (think H145). Cockpit is decent but once again not amazing. Framerate performance is great with the Cowan in both pancake (4k TAA 3080fe 5800x) and vr (Reverb G2), which seems to be the biggest complaint people have with the Flyinside.

Edited December 26, 20223 yr by CaptainNick

I flew RW from late 1970s till mid 1990s for approx 5000 hours of which 3000+/- was on the Bell 206 series. My 100 hours of training was equally split between a 47G2 and a 206B3. I was assigned a 206 for several months that had a SAS system and what i remember was it was nice to fly. The one I have the fondest memories of spending time in was the 206L with the 250-C20R engine. The L was light, fuel burn on the R was low. Up to about 80'F/27'C you could get  +/- 100%Tq with the particle separator removed. With helicopters in our sims I have yet to see one that gives proper indications when in an auto - N1 dropping off to idle, N2 dropping a bit but below the NR (splitting the needles), the need to monitor and control NR. I'd enjoy a helicopter in msfs if it was reasonably good and I sure would welcome it with an autopilot. One helicopter that is pretty good is the gazelle in XP. Flew one for about a year and it was a hoot. Cowan seems to have a good following but I have yet to purchase.

24 minutes ago, dbw1 said:

I flew RW from late 1970s till mid 1990s for approx 5000 hours of which 3000+/- was on the Bell 206 series. My 100 hours of training was equally split between a 47G2 and a 206B3. I was assigned a 206 for several months that had a SAS system and what i remember was it was nice to fly. The one I have the fondest memories of spending time in was the 206L with the 250-C20R engine. The L was light, fuel burn on the R was low. Up to about 80'F/27'C you could get  +/- 100%Tq with the particle separator removed. With helicopters in our sims I have yet to see one that gives proper indications when in an auto - N1 dropping off to idle, N2 dropping a bit but below the NR (splitting the needles), the need to monitor and control NR. I'd enjoy a helicopter in msfs if it was reasonably good and I sure would welcome it with an autopilot. One helicopter that is pretty good is the gazelle in XP. Flew one for about a year and it was a hoot. Cowan seems to have a good following but I have yet to purchase.

Thanks for your very informative post dbw1 !

I am trying to find out if I should go for the FlyInside or the Cowan 206s ...

I have had the Flyinside version for a short while and after reading these posts I bought the Cowan version.

For VR simmers get the Cowan, better FPS Due to the looser tolerance on the model edges in the cabin, though the model is not as polished as the FI version the FPS increase helps for tree trimming sorties, and is not a deal breaker.

Also I appreciate having passengers which you get with the Cowan and plenty of other toys to bolt on, nothing worse for me than flying a ghost ship.

Another big plus for the Cowan is the camera views within VR, so many developers do not bother doing this, which really is taking a P Bob (UK peeps may remember that!)

The only downside is the Asobo flight model, I get a constant pitch up attitude which will not trim out, this I found with the 407 previous.

It keeps me honest I suppose , no hands off flying for a quick drag. 

We have now a 1.0.2 update.

With this version, it seems to me that it's much more easy to fly (too easy). Is it only me?

I find this version much less twitchy…whether that more or less realistic I can’t say.