Hello everyone! Unfortunately I'm at work and for now I can't use msfs. I have two questions, maybe someone can help me. premium and deluxe packages? Also, I have two storages, C where the operating system is and D where there is only msfs. Yesterday I went to the settings to take a look, and I went to disable the Rolling cache, but the Rolling cache wanted me give as destination folder in C, why if msfs is installed totally in D? Am I the one who has to tell the path of the Rolling cache? And why msfs in automatic from C when I have installed it on D? I'm not going to use Rolling cache, but I would like to understand this thing. And if I decide to use it, which destination folder should I put? Thank you very much to whoever will tell me his!! Have a nice day!

There are some files for MSFS that are installed in your Appdata folder, which is on your C drive. Mostly configuration files.

If you open file explorer and go to %appdata%\Microsoft Flight Simulator (or something like that) you will find them there. Not to worry though, the bulk of MSFS's files are where you told the installer to put them.

If you decide to use the rolling cache, you can put it where ever you wish. Since you have both the OS and MSFS on nvme drives, it does not really matter where.

...jim

 

Edited December 30, 20223 yr by JimBrown

4 hours ago, JimBrown said:

There are some files for MSFS that are installed in your Appdata folder, which is on your C drive. Mostly configuration files.

If you open file explorer and go to %appdata%\Microsoft Flight Simulator (or something like that) you will find them there. Not to worry though, the bulk of MSFS's files are where you told the installer to put them.

If you decide to use the rolling cache, you can put it where ever you wish. Since you have both the OS and MSFS on nvme drives, it does not really matter where.

...jim

 

Thank you Jim at least you cleared this doubt for me, thank you!

Stefano

not sure if you know about the help desk for MSFS, has lot of good information, not only but including the Rolling Cache:

How to delete the Rolling Cache and the Manual Cache to fix some performance issues – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com)

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019202439-How-to-delete-the-Rolling-Cache-and-the-Manual-Cache-to-fix-some-performance-issues

14 hours ago, turbomax said:

Stefano

not sure if you know about the help desk for MSFS, has lot of good information, not only but including the Rolling Cache:

How to delete the Rolling Cache and the Manual Cache to fix some performance issues – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support (zendesk.com)

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019202439-How-to-delete-the-Rolling-Cache-and-the-Manual-Cache-to-fix-some-performance-issues

Hi Turbomax, thank you for the advice! But in my case, since yesterday I installed msfs and left both manual and rolling cache deactivated, do I have to delete something? At the moment I have msfs with nothing, I just put the world updates from the first to nine. One question, later I will install world update x, and I will always install it from within the msfs market, but on the website I found this thing written:

RELEASE NOTES 1.26.5.0

If you are playing on PC, some packages in your community folder may not have been updated and, as a result, may have an unexpected impact on the title’s performance and behaviour. Please move your community package(s) to another folder before relaunching the title if you suffer from stability issues or long loading times.

what does it mean? Until now I have always installed from the market inside msfs without doing anything, I clicked on get and it automatically downloaded and installed and everything seems to be ok. Did I do something wrong? Do I have to do something I haven't done before? What does what they write about what to do before installing the world update mean? Many thanks to whoever can help me!!

2 hours ago, Stefano88 said:

What does what they write about what to do before installing the world update mean?

it is simply a precaution, it has happened before that an MSFS update has erased the COMMUNITY folder. this is only important if you install any 3rd party add ons into the COMMUNITY folder. you can avoid any such problems by keeping all 3rd party add ons in another folder outside COMMUNITY and use the tool ADDONS-LINKER which creates Symbolic Links in the COMMUNITY folder instead of the real files themselves. highly recommended freeware from flightsim.to:

https://flightsim.to/file/1572/msfs-addons-linker

Rolling cache is an option, but not required and can be disabled and deleted.

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

it is simply a precaution, it has happened before that an MSFS update has erased the COMMUNITY folder. this is only important if you install any 3rd party add ons into the COMMUNITY folder. you can avoid any such problems by keeping all 3rd party add ons in another folder outside COMMUNITY and use the tool ADDONS-LINKER which creates Symbolic Links in the COMMUNITY folder instead of the real files themselves. highly recommended freeware from flightsim.to:

https://flightsim.to/file/1572/msfs-addons-linker

Rolling cache is an option, but not required and can be disabled and deleted.

Thank you very much for the turbomax explanation!! Ok, so it's a precaution because if I have additional paid things, they could be canceled, now I understand why, thanks! So, for now that I don't have any addons, I can avoid doing this whole procedure right? Regarding the Rolling cache, for now I'm flying with it disabled. But out of curiosity I would like to do some tests with the Rolling active, just to see if I have any benefit if I always fly over the same 4_5 cities. Do I set the Rolling around 30_40gb? More? Less?

24 minutes ago, Stefano88 said:

just to see if I have any benefit

no benefit as long as you have internet access

On 12/26/2022 at 8:07 PM, turbomax said:

never. I have always installed the operating on a separate drive, for safety and backup reasons. everything else incl. applications go on another drive. and depending on your add ons: Windows and MSFS can exceed even a 2 TB drive, which you should not fill up to 100% anyway. 😊

Why safety and backup reasons, please explain.  I have TWO 2TB drives, one is a complete clone of the other.  If there is catastrophic failure, it's about 5 minutes to install the clone and we're up and running.  Moreover:  2.2y after MSFS, Ghost Recon: Wildlands, The Hunter: Call of the Wild are installed I still have 1.18 TB's free, and this will hardly change over time.  KISS, always easiest, most effective, least sensitive to screwups.

Edited December 31, 20223 yr by Noel

4 hours ago, Stefano88 said:

 Regarding the Rolling cache, for now I'm flying with it disabled. But out of curiosity I would like to do some tests with the Rolling active, just to see if I have any benefit if I always fly over the same 4_5 cities. Do I set the Rolling around 30_40gb? More? Less?

Are you using Photogrammetry?  If you don't, then there is no need for the RC.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Are you using Photogrammetry?  If you don't, then there is no need for the RC.

Hi, yes I use photogrammetry. So what do you recommend? Enable or disable Rolling cache? And if so how many gb to dedicate? Thank you very much but I'm still very green on msfs, after many years of fsx, I've had msfs for 2 days. Thank you very much indeed

16 minutes ago, Stefano88 said:

Hi, yes I use photogrammetry. So what do you recommend? Enable or disable Rolling cache? And if so how many gb to dedicate? Thank you very much but I'm still very green on msfs, after many years of fsx, I've had msfs for 2 days. Thank you very much indeed

Hi Stefano, I stopped using photogrammetry a while back as you then eliminate the 'melted buildings' issue you see with poorly done photogrammetry, and yet still have awesome AI OSM scenery which to my eyes can look even better at times, especially for night flying.  So I don't use a rolling cache any more.  If you decide to keep PG, then perhaps use 24Gb as you have the storage for it.  It won't make ANY difference in terms of smoothness, framerate, etc--just stores PG data if you're using it.  Here's an example of no PG at night, in Sophia, Bulgaria in the first screenshot and you can see a lot of buildings have internal lighting which you don't get often w/ PG enabled.  I will look again at PG because this sim is in a steady state of development so things will improve.

 

 

 

On 12/31/2022 at 12:13 PM, turbomax said:

no benefit as long as you have internet access

OK yes. I have a connection that I hoped was better, but now I'm between 50 and 60 mb. On two occasions while I was flying over Rome at 1000ft with the Cessna 172 g1000, twice a message appeared to me that my bandwidth was not sufficient to load the photogrammetry and it told me whether to disable it or ignore the message, I ignored it and let's say that then uploaded it. So I think that with about 50mb of connection, maybe you are at the limit to have a good photogrammetry. Or in some moments it may be that the connection drops and therefore fails to load. I think it's one of two hypotheses...

 

 

On 12/31/2022 at 5:48 PM, Noel said:

Hi Stefano, I stopped using photogrammetry a while back as you then eliminate the 'melted buildings' issue you see with poorly done photogrammetry, and yet still have awesome AI OSM scenery which to my eyes can look even better at times, especially for night flying.  So I don't use a rolling cache any more.  If you decide to keep PG, then perhaps use 24Gb as you have the storage for it.  It won't make ANY difference in terms of smoothness, framerate, etc--just stores PG data if you're using it.  Here's an example of no PG at night, in Sophia, Bulgaria in the first screenshot and you can see a lot of buildings have internal lighting which you don't get often w/ PG enabled.  I will look again at PG because this sim is in a steady state of development so things will improve.

 

 

 

Hello, Happy New Year everyone! Ok, so in this case I have to do two tests, the first with active photogrammetry try to use Rolling cache and see how it goes. Second thing, I'll try to turn off the photogrammetry and see what graphic differences I notice, I'm curious. I've only had a new PC and MSFS for 3 days, I've installed all the world updates, and from what little I could see, flying during the day so with sunlight, the cities with photogrammetry are very, very beautiful!! I often flew into Rome, wowwww it felt real!! But here in the evening I flew a little so I don't know how the situation is. Anyway, thank you very much for your advice! Happy New Year again everyone!!

5 hours ago, Stefano88 said:

Hello, Happy New Year everyone! Ok, so in this case I have to do two tests, the first with active photogrammetry try to use Rolling cache and see how it goes. Second thing, I'll try to turn off the photogrammetry and see what graphic differences I notice, I'm curious. I've only had a new PC and MSFS for 3 days, I've installed all the world updates, and from what little I could see, flying during the day so with sunlight, the cities with photogrammetry are very, very beautiful!! I often flew into Rome, wowwww it felt real!! But here in the evening I flew a little so I don't know how the situation is. Anyway, thank you very much for your advice! Happy New Year again everyone!!

Play around with it but after using MSFS for over 2y now with a high bandwidth connection I find PG off as good in large part as PG on, and again in the bad area you don't have the melted buildings appearance.  You can toggle it on and off and compare any point in your flight and see for yourself.

Good morning everyone! I need a courtesy, being the first few days that I fly to the new msfs. When I always hear about traffic in msfs, what would it be? It is correct that if I want some traffic, in the traffic settings I have traffic enabled real live, and by default if I'm not mistaken it's all set to 50, and honestly I see enough planes both in the airport and in the sky, is this the correct setting? Is it the only type of traffic? This real live traffic setting, what exactly does it correspond to ?How is it generated?And then there's AI traffic, and it's disabled, while what would this be?Sorry if I ask, but I always read about live traffic that kills fps, and I'd like to understand what it is, if that real live traffic I'm using me, or some other program or function... Another small consideration, the day before yesterday I tried frame Generation with dx12 in TAA, wow it's gorgeous and the graphic quality remains excellent with double the fps. However, I deactivated the FG because honestly for now I don't really need it, but I left the dx12 active instead of the dx11 I had before. Yesterday with the same starting settings, only that I have the dx12, I noticed that especially during the day when I move the internal view of the cabin it makes strange things, I don't know what to call them, it tears or breaks the image and only after a little bit it stabilizes. this without the slightest loss of fps, I ask, why does this? Could it be the dx12 causing this? So in the evening in the dark he did it much much less or almost at all. Why? Thank you all so much and have a nice day