Carenado Cessna 182

[waltpop 26]

Was flying the Carenado 182 with no problems. Actually one of the best aircraft that had no problems. Everything worked as it should. MSFS 2020 had an update for this aircraft, and now they screwed it up. Autopilot comes on automatically on the ground as soon as I set VS. Auto pilot not following the flight plan, Throttle seems to not be able to slow down like it should. This update just messed this plane up terribly. Is it possible to get the old one back. They should have left it alone, as this is probably the only Carenado aircraft that was working properly. Thanks Guy's Walt

[ryanbatc 12,774]

Weird - for me the update fixed the AP issues hehe.  Seems like a better plane after update.

 

[edzunu 29]

I just finished a flight and everything is ok, none of the mentioned issues.

[btacon 1,772]

2 hours ago, waltpop said:

Was flying the Carenado 182 with no problems. Actually one of the best aircraft that had no problems. Everything worked as it should. MSFS 2020 had an update for this aircraft, and now they screwed it up. Autopilot comes on automatically on the ground as soon as I set VS. Auto pilot not following the flight plan, Throttle seems to not be able to slow down like it should. This update just messed this plane up terribly. Is it possible to get the old one back. They should have left it alone, as this is probably the only Carenado aircraft that was working properly. Thanks Guy's Walt

I have this plane and none of the issues you describe appear for me. I recommend you uninstall and reinstall. It will take only a minute or two and may solve your problems. 
-B

[bobcat999 8,442]

I installed the latest update. I have none of these problems.  Must be a bad installation or something else interfering with it.  Have you installed the latest Garmin G1000NXi updates from the marketplace to go with it?  Everything needs to be up to date.

Edited January 17, 2023 by bobcat999

[Mike62 29]

4 hours ago, waltpop said:

Was flying the Carenado 182 with no problems. Actually one of the best aircraft that had no problems. Everything worked as it should. MSFS 2020 had an update for this aircraft, and now they screwed it up. Autopilot comes on automatically on the ground as soon as I set VS. Auto pilot not following the flight plan, Throttle seems to not be able to slow down like it should. This update just messed this plane up terribly. Is it possible to get the old one back. They should have left it alone, as this is probably the only Carenado aircraft that was working properly. Thanks Guy's Walt

You do not by any chance have the Honeycomb Bravo throttle.  I had this problem after I received the Bravo, and I solved it by having the Bravo's autopilot control knob on anything but VS mode when loading a simulator flight.

 

Mike

[waltpop 26]

Not quite I understand you. I do have the Honeycomb Yoke also. If I set VS, or NAV while on the ground the AP is coming on automatic while on the ground. 

[Mike62 29]

The Honeycomb autopilot controls are on the Bravo Throttle.  The issue I described should not happen if you only have the yoke.

 

Mike

[waltpop 26]

Yes, I know. I have the Honeycomb Yoke and The throttle Quad. Uninstalled the C182, GTNnxi and reinstalled them both. Rebooted and still the same. Pulling hair out because I'm puzzled that no one else seems to have this problem. As I said. This plane was perfect with no problems at all. It was one of my best planes to fly until I installed the update from MSFS2020. Determind to figure this out. As a last resort, I may reinstall MSFS2020 and see if that fixes it. Hope I don;t have to do that though. I do appreciate all of you for trying to help this old man out. Thank You all

[orchestra_nl 923]

3 hours ago, Mike62 said:

You do not by any chance have the Honeycomb Bravo throttle.  I had this problem after I received the Bravo, and I solved it by having the Bravo's autopilot control knob on anything but VS mode when loading a simulator flight.

When I first used the Bravo I noticed there were 1 or 2 duplicate AP assignments that interfered with proper behaviour of the autopilot. These were assigned to some of the left control knob settings.

[fppilot 4,339]

3 hours ago, waltpop said:

Yes, I know. I have the Honeycomb Yoke and The throttle Quad. Uninstalled the C182, GTNnxi and reinstalled them both. Rebooted and still the same. Pulling hair out because I'm puzzled that no one else seems to have this problem. As I said. This plane was perfect with no problems at all. It was one of my best planes to fly until I installed the update from MSFS2020. Determind to figure this out. As a last resort, I may reinstall MSFS2020 and see if that fixes it. Hope I don;t have to do that though. I do appreciate all of you for trying to help this old man out. Thank You all

Have you tried flying without the yoke and quadrant?  Sounds strange but you can try it.  Find a big wide runway and use your mouse to control power, mixture, and trim.  You should be able to take off and reach altitude where you can test the autopilot, again using your mouse.  See how it functions.  It may narrow the issue to bindings, etc.  or confirm the aircraft installation is the culprit.  I have done this in the past, in the early days of MSFS when I was getting my controls set up and fighting similar issues.  Did you have dedicated controls profiles for the 182 before the update?

Separate, isolate, test, identify. Will take less time than reinstallations and perhaps preclude chasing ghosts.

Edited January 18, 2023 by fppilot

[Paladin2005 421]

I bought the Carenado C182 last week and have zero problems, flies very nice, G1000 and the autopilot are full Honeycomb bravo compatible. Its a joy to fly this now. (i was waiting a long time, because .... Carenado...)

Happy with it!

[waltpop 26]

Wow, guess I'll keep trying to figure this out. Again, a BIG THANK YOU to everyone trying to help me out. 

[waltpop 26]

What is happening is that if I arm HDG, or ALT, or VS, or IAS automatically the Autopilot goes on. This is not supposed to happen while I'm still on the ground. Seems like most of you are not having this problem. I sent a test to Honeycomb to see if they might have a solution. Again everything was working good on the Carenado 182. Problems only started when i did the latest 182 and NGxi update last week. 

[JYW 2,977]

8 hours ago, waltpop said:

What is happening is that if I arm HDG, or ALT, or VS, or IAS automatically the Autopilot goes on. This is not supposed to happen while I'm still on the ground. Seems like most of you are not having this problem. I sent a test to Honeycomb to see if they might have a solution. Again everything was working good on the Carenado 182. Problems only started when i did the latest 182 and NGxi update last week. 

Easy answer to this one.

The Carenado C182 does not include/model a flight director.  It's depicting an early G1000 model, where the KAP140 was used, rather than the G1000's integrated GFC700 autopilot.

The aicraft's systems.cfg confirms this, with [Flight_Director=0] included.

Therefore, with no FD, it's normal MSFS behaviour that if you select a AP mode, the AP will engage.

In short, with no FD, there's no "arming" of modes on the ground.

Any AP mode you press at any time (with Avionics on) will engage the Autopilot.