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Apparently, this Omen Obelisk is a hot running PC due to the poorly designed case, and stock cooler/fan.  I did replace the stock CPU fan a long time ago with a Noctua.  Just sitting here under normal usage, the core temps are around 48 to 50.

Here's one thread talking about this PC:

I guess I can't really change the fan profiles.  In Windows 10 power options, I have it set to the "high performance" setting.  Cooling policy is 'active", and for the processor, the min state is 5%, max state is 100%.  I didn't do any overclocking, but I guess it does some on it's own?  I'm looking at HWMonitor, and all my CPU cores are sitting around 4290 Mhz.  Some people online mentioned underclocking the CPU, but I'm not sure how to get into all that.

I don't game much on this PC, but it would be nice to run MSFS without things getting too toasty.  If the CPU temp is getting to 95, I wonder why the fan isn't ramping up like it did in the past when the case was flat on the floor.  Then again, I'm not sure if that was the CPU fan or the GPU fan.  All I know is once I raised it off the ground, the fans didn't need to go so crazy.

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If you built the system yourself you need to address your cooling. For the temp to be getting that high something is really wrong there. CPU cooling and cooling in general in a PC is very important. Doesn't help that you don't have your specs in your signature. Very hard for anyone to advise you.

OK saw your post with the system.

Try remounting the Noctua with care and tghe best Thermal paste you can get.

 

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2 minutes ago, FBW737 said:

If you built the system yourself you need to address your cooling. For the temp to be getting that high something is really wrong there. CPU cooling and cooling in general in a PC is very important. Doesn't help that you don't have your specs in your signature. Very hard for anyone to advise you.

????

He has multiple times pointed out it is an off the shelf system and provided the model name.

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Start by cleaning out any dirt/fluff/dust bunnies.  Do not use a vacuum it can wreck the fans by over speeding them.

If the case has dust filters, clean them.

Check the power supply for dirt and dust. An over heating PSU can cause CTD.

As a test,  run with the case open to see what that does to temps, and also watch what the fans do.

 

ALSO - when you installed the Noctua was it just a fan or a fan and heatsink. If just a fan it may be close to time to replace the CPU thermal paste.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, SpaceForceCapt said:

Apparently, this Omen Obelisk is a hot running PC due to the poorly designed case, and stock cooler/fan.  I did replace the stock CPU fan a long time ago with a Noctua.  Just sitting here under normal usage, the core temps are around 48 to 50.

Here's one thread talking about this PC:

I guess I can't really change the fan profiles.  In Windows 10 power options, I have it set to the "high performance" setting.  Cooling policy is 'active", and for the processor, the min state is 5%, max state is 100%.  I didn't do any overclocking, but I guess it does some on it's own?  I'm looking at HWMonitor, and all my CPU cores are sitting around 4290 Mhz.  Some people online mentioned underclocking the CPU, but I'm not sure how to get into all that.

I don't game much on this PC, but it would be nice to run MSFS without things getting too toasty.  If the CPU temp is getting to 95, I wonder why the fan isn't ramping up like it did in the past when the case was flat on the floor.  Then again, I'm not sure if that was the CPU fan or the GPU fan.  All I know is once I raised it off the ground, the fans didn't need to go so crazy.

Buddy, the case does not explain those kind of temps unless it's a shoe box full of cotton wool. I would be looking at taking that cooler off and cleaning it up and the chip of any dust and paste and then applying new paste and re-seating it. I suspect either something wrong with the contact of the cooler with the cpu and/or a malfunction of the cooler itself. At first, anyway. However....without an overclock it's the only easy and obvious thing that can explain those kind of temps. If you do not have the confidence to do it then take it to someone that does. But I'm wondering why all your cores are at 4.2 Mhz if at idle. Again, I don't know the specifics of that chip but it seems sufficiantly recent to me to be throttling back if not in use?? Something seems wrong here and perhaps someone with the same chip could chime in.

It may not solve your CTD problems but that PC should not be running like that regardless and I would not be at all surprised if it was the cause.

If you have not interfered with it then it will not overclock itself. Some (or most these days) chips have "precision boost" or some such incarnation of it but it's not an "overclock" as it's within its design parameters. Windows, certainly has no authority over such matters. You certainly should not be considering underclocking. That could be a whole new world of trouble if you don't know what you're doing. Neither should it be necessary.

Something is wrong with your config. Be it cooling or setup or both. Idle frequency seems wrong (although I could be wrong on that) and temps are not right.

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These PCs are known to have cooling issues, unfortunately.

I don't remember ever doing something to overclock it, but it appears it is.  The base speed of the CPU is 3.2 Ghz.  Not sure why it's constantly running balls to the wall at 4.3??

2 minutes ago, Jazz said:

Buddy, the case does not explain those kind of temps unless it's a shoe box full of cotton wool. I would be looking at taking that cooler off and cleaning it up and the chip of any dust and paste and then applying new paste and re-seating it. I suspect either something wrong with the contact of the cooler with the cpu and/or a malfunction of the cooler itself. At first, anyway. However....without an overclock it's the only easy and obvious thing that can explain those kind of temps. If you do not have the confidence to do it then take it to someone that does. But I'm wondering why all your cores are at 4.2 Mhz if at idle. Again, I don't know the specifics of that chip but it seems sufficiantly recent to me to be throttling back if not in use?? Something seems wrong here and perhaps someone with the same chip could chime in.

It may not solve your CTD problems but that PC should not be running like that regardless and I would not be at all surprised if it was the cause.

If you have not interfered with it then it will not overclock itself. Some (or most these days) chips have "precision boost" or some such incarnation of it but it's not an "overclock" as it's within its design parameters. Windows, certainly has no authority over such matters. You certainly should not be considering underclocking. That could be a whole new world of trouble if you don't know what you're doing. Neither should it be necessary.

Something is wrong with your config. Be it cooling or setup or both. Idle frequency seems wrong (although I could be wrong on that) and temps are not right.

Did you take note of quotes from other users of that system experiencing similar issues?  It could be the issues you mention. But that as manufacturing defects, which is another avenue to cure the issue if still under warranty.

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NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
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1 minute ago, SpaceForceCapt said:

These PCs are known to have cooling issues, unfortunately.

I don't remember ever doing something to overclock it, but it appears it is.  The base speed of the CPU is 3.2 Ghz.  Not sure why it's constantly running balls to the wall at 4.3??

Contact their support and get help with BIOS settings.  Unusual for a system not designed specifically for gaming to OC as sold.

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NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
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"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

I saved up money and during x-mass sale bought new rig with raptor lane and 4090. My CTD is a thing of the past now.

I know it is not very popular solution but it really fixed all my issues !

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Pretty sure this PC is out of warranty.  It was years ago that I bought it.  Runs great except for the issues with MSFS.

11 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Did you take note of quotes from other users of that system experiencing similar issues?  It could be the issues you mention. But that as manufacturing defects, which is another avenue to cure the issue if still under warranty.

It's fair advice to the sufferer of these woes

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11 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I saved up money and during x-mass sale bought new rig with raptor lane and 4090. My CTD is a thing of the past now.

I know it is not very popular solution but it really fixed all my issues !

That isn't the solution to his problem. Something is wrong with his CPU config.

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2 minutes ago, Jazz said:

That isn't the solution to his problem. Something is wrong with his CPU config.

Why not if you get more capable cpu with better cooling solution . You can only push old rig that far

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2 hours ago, SpaceForceCapt said:

HP Omen Obelisk,

Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3192 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)

32 GB RAM, Nvidia RTX2070

 

Using High settings for most things in the sim, so not really going overboard with the settings. CPU utilization is fairly low, around 25-35%.   Temp is around 95 C.

I kind of have a similar set up. 8086k at 5ghz, 2080ti and 32ram.

If your "anything" is pushing near 95c then I would say something is a bit off there in the hardware department.

As you mentioned, the temp doesn't increase over time but its possible that the motherboard/cpu is throttling down quite a bit, causing a crash.

If you're crashing that close to a destination airport then it could be several reasons. Scenery not updated. Liveries installed. Multiplayer on. Too many AI or online traffic loading up. Airport runway or taxiway textures not loading or updated.

It sounds a lot like hardware related cooling issues.

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