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Graphics Card for XP12 = RTX 3060, 3060Ti, or 3070?

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My current machine is:

  • i9 9900K
  • 32 GB RAM
  • RTX 2060 with 6GB VRAM

Zibo and HotStart CL650 textures are blurry running XP12 with sliders mid-to-slightly less than full right. Tried backing off the sliders, no effect on texture quality.  Still blurry.  I'm considering an upgrade to either a:

  • RTX 3060 12GB VRAM
  • RTX 3060 Ti 8GB VRAM, or
  • RTX 3070 8GB VRAM

I also fly with MSFS 2020.  I would like the biggest improvement for the dollar, not to exceed $600, and even that is a stretch.  The upper 30x0 series and 40x0 series are out of reach right now.  Not willing to spend that much. 

Which card gives the biggest bang for the buck but also address the blurry textures in XP12?  HotStart CL650 will be bigger part of my sim experience going forward after my retirement from real life flying the Challenger 350. 

Thanks in advance everyone for your assistance!

Best regards,

Rich Boll

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

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Apologies for the duplicate post... Grrrr....

Rich

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

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Try setting the FSR slider to full right and see if that improves the blurriness.

I'm on a Ryzen 5600x + RTX 3060Ti, and it's butter smooth with XP12 and MFS.

Also 32GB RAM.

Windows 11.

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

I have a Nvidia 3060 12GB and fly the Challenger exclusively in XP12 (what an amazing simulation of an aircraft) and I have all the sliders all maxed out and its butter smooth and textures are very sharp. It runs the Fenix A320 in FS2020 very very smooth too and that running on a top end i7 processor with 32GB of Ram. 
 

Regards

Paul EGCC

Regards

Paul EGCC

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11 hours ago, GoranM said:

Try setting the FSR slider to full right and see if that improves the blurriness.

Hi GoranM,

I tried moving the sliders both left and right, and several combinations.  Nothing seemed to help.

Thanks,

Rich

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

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Thanks Cagarini & Paul!

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

Take the RTX 3060 12gb

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

I'd go with the 3060 Ti. But make sure to get the updated model with the GDDR6X memory. It's almost as fast as the 3070 but quite a bit cheaper. 

Greetings
Tim

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i5 12600K | 32Gb | RTX 4080

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3 hours ago, Tim-HH said:

I'd go with the 3060 Ti. But make sure to get the updated model with the GDDR6X memory. It's almost as fast as the 3070 but quite a bit cheaper. 

Thanks Tim!

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

  • Author
On 1/20/2023 at 8:48 PM, GoranM said:

Try setting the FSR slider to full right and see if that improves the blurriness.

The FSR slider was full right (off).  I did test it in various settings to the left, but no change in blurriness. 

Thanks,

Rich

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

  • Commercial Member
6 hours ago, richjb2 said:

The FSR slider was full right (off).  I did test it in various settings to the left, but no change in blurriness. 

Thanks,

Rich

Can you post screenshots?

 

On 1/22/2023 at 8:43 PM, richjb2 said:

I did test it in various settings to the left, but no change in blurriness. 

If I have recommended a 12 gb card there is a valid reason.
XP12 Vulkan is a Vram devourer, much more than XP11. 
As XP12 progresses, new addons will also arrive (beautiful scenery, new complex planes, more detailed objects, etc) which will make the whole simulator more and more "greedy Vram".
Buying an 8 gb card today might seem sensible today... but you risk finding yourself out of vram in a few months, and still have the blurriness.

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

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15 minutes ago, efis007 said:

If I have recommended a 12 gb card there is a valid reason.
XP12 Vulkan is a Vram devourer, much more than XP11. 
As XP12 progresses, new addons will also arrive (beautiful scenery, new complex planes, more detailed objects, etc) which will make the whole simulator more and more "greedy Vram".
Buying an 8 gb card today might seem sensible today... but you risk finding yourself out of vram in a few months, and still have the blurriness.

Thanks, efis007.  

After researching the two cards, I made the decision to buy the 3060Ti with 8GB. I realize that I'm taking a huge chance that I'll run  into VRAM in XP12 in the future.  I am hoping that LR takes in account that most graphics cards have 8GB VRAM.  That's the norm until you get into the 4000 series RTX cards. The 3060 is the only card that offers a 12GB VRAM option.  They can't tie an entire program to one graphics card.  I am hopeful that the faster VRAM and bus speeds will offset the VRAM difference. 

What was really convincing was the card speed differences between the 3060 and the 3060Ti, and they are significant.  Tom's Hardware did good analysis of the 3060 card with comparisons to the Ti card: Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 12GB Review: Hope Springs Eternal | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

All things considered, including flying MSFS as well, I made the "risky", but calculated decision to go with the 3060Ti card.  

Thanks,

Rich 

Richard Boll

Wichita, KS

I hope you made the right choice. 🤝

The dubious issue is about blurring.
The 3060TI is 30% faster than the 3060.
But your post doesn't mention speed, you don't have low frame rate problems, you have blurry textures problems caused (most likely) by the low Vram of your card "saturated".

Your previous card is 6gb Vram.
The new 3060TI is 8GB.
Only 2gb of leeway between old and new.
Will those extra 2gb be enough to completely fix the blurs?
I don't know.... I hope so for you. 🤔

If I had been in your place I would have chosen a card with double Vram compared to the old card, at least I have the guarantee that I'm not playing on razor's edge.
From 6gb to 12gb the margin of Vram saturation is large.
From 6gb to 8gb the margin of Vram saturation is narrow. 🤞

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

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