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Dreaded Kernel 41 error. Help please.

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Hi All.
I Have been suffering with this problem for some time now. Sometimes P3d V5.3 CTD's and sometimes my hole rig shuts down! I've tried to follow fixes online but nothing seems to work. Is there a clever fellow out there who could throw some light on this please. Please be gentle with me though, I'm not a techy! Thanks in advance.
 
Malcolm.
 
- <System>
  <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331c3b3a-2005-44c2-ac5e-77220c37d6b4}" />
  <EventID>41</EventID>
  <Version>9</Version>
  <Level>1</Level>
  <Task>63</Task>
  <Opcode>0</Opcode>
  <Keywords>0x8000400000000002</Keywords>
  <TimeCreated SystemTime="2023-01-26T15:18:06.2081018Z" />
  <EventRecordID>33538</EventRecordID>
  <Correlation />
  <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
  <Channel>System</Channel>
  <Computer>Flightdeck</Computer>
  <Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
  </System>
- <EventData>
  <Data Name="BugcheckCode">239</Data>
  <Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0xffffc38b6cf31100</Data>
  <Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
  <Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0xffffc38b6cf31100</Data>
  <Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
  <Data Name="SleepInProgress">0</Data>
  <Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
  <Data Name="BootAppStatus">0</Data>
  <Data Name="Checkpoint">0</Data>
  <Data Name="ConnectedStandbyInProgress">false</Data>
  <Data Name="SystemSleepTransitionsToOn">0</Data>
  <Data Name="CsEntryScenarioInstanceId">0</Data>
  <Data Name="BugcheckInfoFromEFI">false</Data>
  <Data Name="CheckpointStatus">0</Data>
  <Data Name="CsEntryScenarioInstanceIdV2">0</Data>
  <Data Name="LongPowerButtonPressDetected">false</Data>
  <Data Name="LidReliability">false</Data>
  <Data Name="InputSuppressionState">0</Data>
  <Data Name="PowerButtonSuppressionState">0</Data>
  <Data Name="LidState">3</Data>
  </EventData>
  </Event>

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Hi newtie.

Thank you for your reply. No it's not. My system spec's by the way.

Case THERMALTAKE CORE X71 TEMPERED GLASS EDITION GAMING CASE Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900KS (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache Motherboard GIGABYTE Z690 UD DDR4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready Memory (RAM) 64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB) Graphics Card 24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090 Ti - HDMI, DP 1st Storage Drive 4TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW) 2nd Storage Drive 4TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW) 1st M.2 SSD Drive 4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W) DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM Power Supply CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Power Cable 1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core) Processor Cooling Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) Network Card 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT Wireless Network Card WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0 USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS Operating System Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003] Operating System Language United Kingdom - English Language Windows Recovery Media Windows 11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive Office Software Microsoft® 365 Samsung LU32J590UQRXXU 32" 4K UHD Monito

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A Google search turned up pages of Kernel 41 issues. See https://windowsreport.com/event-id-41-windows-11/ for example or search for "Windows 11 Kernel 41"


Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX MB; AMD 7800X3D CPU; Deepcool LT520 AIO Cooler; 64 Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000; Win11 Pro; P3D V5.4; 1 Samsung 990 2Tb NVMe SSD: 1 Crucial 4Tb MX500 SATA SSD; 1 Samsung 860 1Tb SSD; Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 1080ti 11Gb VRAM; Toshiba 43" LED TV @ 4k; Honeycomb Bravo.

 

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@rooster hancock 2003, what aircraft are you flying? If the problem is with a 3rd party one try a default aircraft. How long into a flight?

If your computer is shutting down that suggests a more serious problem. It’s certainly powerful enough. Built professionally or home built?


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System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke.
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Based on the way that the description has been presented, this is almost certainly a factory build.


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I had this last week after upgrading to 13th gen Intel CPU. It was the PSU. Not sure if its faulty (9 years old, so possibly) or just not able to supply the increased power draw. 

Swapped for a Corsair 1000w and no issues since. 

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A mate of mine just had a psu go bang and it took his graphics card, albeit an old one with it too. 

Poor sod. 

I've had it years ago with a psu go bang, luckily it didn't take the mobo, cpu or gfx card with it. 


 
 
 
 
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This is very likely a hardware problem, either the PSU or possibly the onboard power regulation on the motherboard itself.  I've seen both.  The computer shutting down uncommanded is the tell-tale here.

I'd start by checking, removing, and re-seating all the power connectors going to the motherboard, and on both ends of the cables if the PSU is a modular design where the cable ends are terminated with connectors plugged into the PSU.  If that doesn't fix it, then I'd swap in a known working PSU with a capacity appropriate to the hardware.  That's the most likely source of the problem.  If it's a motherboard power issue, it's likely that it's going to entail rebuilding the entire system.

Also make sure your power cable from the wall isn't loose.  I had an unhappy and somewhat embarassing incident decades ago that turned out to be nothing more complicated than a loose 120v power cable. 


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System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
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This could also be a temperature issue.  PCs need to have the dust blown out of them on a regular basis.  How regular varies depending on the environment it's in.  I would suggest that, in general, you follow these steps:

1. Check the power cable for a solid connection(Like Bob said)

2. Clean out the dust from the case. Blow it out, do not vacuum.

3 While the case is open, reseat your GPU and Memory cards.  Also check to make sure that any other power cables are seated properly, like Bob said 🙂.

4. Boot the PC and make sure that all the fans are working properly; GPU, CPU, Power supply, and case fans.

5. Get a temp monitoring program like MSI Afterburner and when running the sim ensure that you aren't going over any limits, mainly the GPU and CPU temps

6. If you do all of this and you still have crashes and shutdowns, IMHO, is when you consider looking directly at the Hardware.  


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