7950x3D shaping up to demolish the 13900k in MSFS

[ryanbatc 12,813]

3 hours ago, regis9 said:

As far as I can tell I’m CPU bound with my 4080 in most scenarios, particularly busy airports/big cities/complex airliners.

Yep I am too absolutely.

[odourboy 1,288]

Demolished? 😂 But it's a win for AMD.

Edited February 27, 2023 by odourboy

[ca_metal 2,015]

5 minutes ago, odourboy said:

Demolished? 😂 But it's a win for AMD.

4K is a GPU bound scenario. If you really want to test the CPU itself, 1080p is better. The same review:

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by ca_metal

[wiler 394]

5 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

4K is a GPU bound scenario. If you really want to test the CPU itself, 1080p is better. The same review:

 

imagine not understanding the CPU is so powerful the 4090 is bottlenecking it... AMD for the win! 

[altenae 171]

5 minutes ago, wiler said:

imagine not understanding the CPU is so powerful the 4090 is bottlenecking it... AMD for the win! 

Zero interest in 1080P... zero !!!
 

[ryanbatc 12,813]

1 hour ago, altenae said:

Smashed ?
Demolished ?

Seems to be a child forum here....

I know....  its 2023 and 1080P lol...

Let's get some real user benchs at 4k with tons of addons.  That's the only test I care about!

[odourboy 1,288]

A really interesting analysis here and a compelling argument to wait for the 7800X3D.

 

[ca_metal 2,015]

2 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I know....  its 2023 and 1080P lol...

Let's get some real user benchs at 4k with tons of addons.  That's the only test I care about!

It's not that, man. Testing it on a CPU bound scenario helps you to understand how it will handle situations like KLAX with lots of traffic + Study Level aircraft (PMDG or Fenix for example).

That's the reason I think 1080p helps us (simmers) to understand how much gain we might have and differences between CPUs. When you use GPU bound tests, you won't know that.

[odourboy 1,288]

24 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

That's the reason I think 1080p helps us (simmers) to understand how much gain we might have and differences between CPUs. When you use GPU bound tests, you won't know that.

You don't know for a fact that the test is GPU bound though. It's not at all difficult to be CPU bound with an RTX 4090, so your supposition is pur speculation. It also doesn't give professional reviewers much credit for being able to set up a simple test. Pity the testers don't show the dev performance window.

Edited February 27, 2023 by odourboy

[RobJC 2,069]

The benchmarks need to include 1440p and 4k. Not sure what the issue is running just 1080p? 

[TravelRunner404 596]

14 minutes ago, odourboy said:

You don't know for a fact that the test is GPU bound though. It's likely, but still speculation. Pity the testers don't show the dev performance window.

We can infer with some reasonable logic.  If the FPS went from 108 to 80 and all you did was up the resolution that would mean the GPU became the bottleneck.

1080p is the only way a general market tester can put a game in a CPU bound situation.  The big reviewers need a metric that is consistent across all platforms.  Trying to find the nuances of every game that limit it to a CPU scenario isn't realistic.  We all know that you can load up the default C152 somewhere in Utah with TLOD of even 200 and watch the FPS fly off the screen.  If you have a 4090 usually the FPS max out because of the CPU somewhere in the 80-90 range.  Load up the Fenix with a 13900k or 5800x3D and a 30 series or 40 series and you tend to be CPU limited at 44-52 FPS, add in traffic and lose 8-10 depending on where you are. 

What we do know is the CPU is the major bottleneck when we start adding in all the things that people on these boards like to add in. 

[odourboy 1,288]

1 minute ago, TravelRunner404 said:

If the FPS went from 108 to 80 and all you did was up the resolution that would mean the GPU became the bottleneck.

That's rubbish though. TLOD, for example  increases CPU load as resolution rises.

[odourboy 1,288]

3 minutes ago, TravelRunner404 said:

1080p is the only way a general market tester can put a game in a CPU bound situation.

Rubbish too. It's simple to create settings which keep you main thread limited at both 1080p and 4K. Give the testers a big of credit.

[blueshark747 1,843]

Focused AMD shilling and hype detected!

"Nearly unbelievable" performance...demolishing 13900ks...RAWRRR!!!

 

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

2 minutes ago, blueshark747 said:

Focused AMD shilling and hype detected!

Makes a change from Intel for the last 10-15 years.