Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
brucewtb

Internet speed upgrade - worthwhile for MSFS2020?

Recommended Posts

I have been offered an internet speed upgrade from its current 100 Mbs at 100 AUD per month to 220 Mbs for an additional 30 AUD per month or to 450 Mbs for a further 50 AUD per month - all with unlimited bandwidth.  Would any of this be worthwhile for MSFS2020?  I have banged on about PG in another thread but my understanding is that faster internet speed may not help with poor PG.  Now these speed don't seem that fast based on comments I have seen in this forum but are the best you can get in Australia for now. Any observations appreciated.

Bruce

 


Bruce Bartlett

 

Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, brucewtb said:

I have been offered an internet speed upgrade from its current 100 Mbs at 100 AUD per month to 220 Mbs for an additional 30 AUD per month or to 450 Mbs for a further 50 AUD per month - all with unlimited bandwidth.  Would any of this be worthwhile for MSFS2020?  I have banged on about PG in another thread but my understanding is that faster internet speed may not help with poor PG.  Now these speed don't seem that fast based on comments I have seen in this forum but are the best you can get in Australia for now. Any observations appreciated.

Bruce

 

Bruce, I have a connection that gets a consistent 130 Mbs, and I've never had any problem at all with PG. Remember, it's not only the peak speed that counts, but the average speed. If you can buy a dependable and steady 100 Mbs connection, that should be perfectly fine. 

  • Like 2

Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a 1000Mbs (1GB) fiber connection (Canada) and PG still does look bad in most cases. I think PG might be more dependent on your CPU, at least that what I gleaned from reading different posts.


Most of what is said on the Internet may be the same thing they shovel on the regular basis at the local barn.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's enough if the servers from Microsoft are doing there job.
Bandwidth error started a week ago.
I am not the only one seeing this topic is used again:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/low-bandwidth-message-connection-lost-switched-offline/464121/1032

Edited by altenae
  • Upvote 1

MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just had a free upgrade from 50 mbs to 150 mbs, though I'm currently getting 450 mbs with a ping of 9 (not sure why I'm getting that much.

I've really noticed little or any difference with msfs, though it fels a bit smoother (but that may just be my perception or snake oil).

I'm sure that 100 mbs is more than enough and wouldn't have paid any more to upgrade from 50 mbs (other than the fact that is was done at no extra cost).

I'm not saying but fast internet is not nice especially for downloads, but 50-100 is probably way more than most people use.

  • Like 1

Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia 3080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, altenae said:

It's enough if the servers from Microsoft are doing there job.
Bandwidth error started a week ago.
I am nog the only one seeing this topic is used again:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/low-bandwidth-message-connection-lost-switched-offline/464121/1032

No, you are not the only one. I'm getting them too.


Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia 3080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, brucewtb said:

I have been offered an internet speed upgrade from its current 100 Mbs at 100 AUD per month to 220 Mbs for an additional 30 AUD per month or to 450 Mbs for a further 50 AUD per month - all with unlimited bandwidth.  Would any of this be worthwhile for MSFS2020?  I have banged on about PG in another thread but my understanding is that faster internet speed may not help with poor PG.  Now these speed don't seem that fast based on comments I have seen in this forum but are the best you can get in Australia for now. Any observations appreciated.

Bruce

 

I wouldn't go lower than 100 Mbps of internet speed using MSFS, with an stable connection (fiber). The sim will be a lot more stable and the PG rendition will look better as it'll be loaded up faster during the streaming as you fly over the areas (although the quality of the PG is not very good in some regions). It's also important to have a good internet speed when it comes to the updates of the sim, to allow for faster downloads.


Cheers, Ed

MSFS Steam - Win10 Home x64 // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x - VR Oculus Rift // MSFS Steam - Win 10 Home x64 - Gaming Laptop CUK ASUS Strix - CPU Intel i7-8750H - 32GB RAM - RTX2070 8GB - SSD 2TB + HDD 2TB // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's easy to check how much FS2020 uses by bringing up the task manager with CTRL-SHIFT-ESC. Click the performance tab and select your network connection. It probably says Ethernet or similar.

I have a 50 Mbit/s connection and the sim is currently downloading the latest update at full blast because I'm late to the party. On patch update days I'm lucky to get 10 Mbit/s though.

Terrain streaming seems to be at under 10 Mbit/s for me usually and everything looks fine. I'd say a higher connection speed might only benefit you when updates come out. Terrain streaming doesn't seem to be very bandwidth intensive.


Intel Core i5-12600k, Nvidia RTX 2080 Super, 64 Gigs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Bruce,

I'm on NBN HFC (Hybrid Fibre Copper - the old payTv/Foxtel cable network) and I upgraded from 100 down to 1000(or whatever HFC can provide depending on area network load).

Ive managed to get a max of 150 Mb download speed when installing MSFS (Ive had to do that far too many times 😞 ) but apart from faster install times, I havent really noticed any improvements with PG over 100.

 

Lorby Si has created an exerimental utility that monitors MSFS network speed and usage
lorbymsfsnetworkmonitor.zip

 

You could download and run that whilst you are on your current plan to see if and how often MSFS comes close to your existing max speed.

Regards

David

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OK, let's shift up a bit: are you talking about Megabytes per second (MB/s) or megabits per second (Mbps)!?!?

The difference is twelvefold! You shouldn't mix the units. Choose one and stick to it.

Edited by Bartul

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's worthwhile if you re-install MSFS every week 😉

Other than that, as others said, 100Mbps is enough in terms of photogrammetry. If you have issues, they're likely due to something else, like MS servers...


My simming system: AMD Ryzen 5800X3D, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB, LG 38" 3840x1600

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At the beginning of the year I upgraded to a full fibre optic internet service which is 1.5Gbps Down & 940 Mbps Up. My flight sim PC is on a dedicated 1GB Switch and I am getting the full download speeds given the hardware I currently have. My PC is no slouch and PG is still absolutely rubbish. I can't say I have noticed any significant difference in visual quality with my new internet service as it was great before (apart from PG which I just turn off)

I am happy that I have a much more reliable internet service but for MSFS it didn't really do anything.  

  • Upvote 1

 

Richard

i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |

mmBbmS1.png

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bandwidth from your ISP unless you are really low on a DSL line, makes zero difference in MSFS. 


 

BOBSK8             MSFS 2020 ,    ,PMDG 737-600-800 Fenix A320, FSLTL , TrackIR ,  Avliasoft EFB2  ,  ATC  by PF3  ,

A Pilots LIfe V2 ,  CLX PC , Auto FPS, ACTIVE Sky FS,  PMDG DC6 , A2A Comanche, , Milviz C 310

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Man you folks down under are getting robbed.

17 hours ago, pstrub said:

It's worthwhile if you re-install MSFS every week 😉

Other than that, as others said, 100Mbps is enough in terms of photogrammetry. If you have issues, they're likely due to something else, like MS servers...

Unless he has other devices using the same connection.


Win10Pro 22H2-19045.4123/IntelCorei7-3770K/GigabyteGA-Z68XP-UD3/32GBGSkillCL7-8-8-24/AsusRTX2070OC8GB/1TBCrucialMX500SSD/2 TB PNY CS900/(x3)1TBRAWMushkinSSDs/LGBlueRayBurner/RosewillChallengerTowerBlack/CorsairRM750wPSU/X56HOTAS/TtesportsCommanderKeyboardMousecombo/TrackIR5Pro/34inUltraWideScreenLG2560x1080p/TM2xMFDCougar/OculusQuest2/InateckKU5211PCIe3.2/LTERIVERPCIeG2S4/TMobileHomeInternet5G

MSI Codex Series R2 B14NUC7-095US/Windows 11 Home 22H2 22631.3593/i7 14700F/MSI Pro B760 VC Wifi II/RTX 4060/32GB DDR5 5600mhz/650w Gold PSU

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
×
×
  • Create New...