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New SU 12 Beta Update [1.31.20.0] - March 2nd, 2023

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18 hours ago, Car147 said:

MS and Asobo are really knocking it out the park with these updates.

How can they afford to sustain this?  What other 'game' title, or any kind of software title, gets this level of change over this period of time, w/ no end in sight?

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Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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3 minutes ago, Noel said:

How can they afford to sustain this? 

shhh. don't tell them

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5 minutes ago, Noel said:

How can they afford to sustain this?  What other 'game' title, or any kind of software title, gets this level of change over this period of time, w/ no end in sight?

I have no idea. Personally I would be more than prepared to pay a monthly subscription. I mean I pay ten quid a month for Navigraph but nothing for the base sim.

8 minutes ago, Noel said:

How can they afford to sustain this?

The marketplace. Simple as that.

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1 minute ago, jarmstro said:

I have no idea. Personally I would be more than prepared to pay a monthly subscription. I mean I pay ten quid a month for Navigraph but nothing for the base sim.

Shhhhh!  :wink:

In all seriousness, I think they do well out of the marketplace and their own aircraft sales (local legends etc.).

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4 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Shhhhh!  :wink:

In all seriousness, I think they do well out of the marketplace and their own aircraft sales (local legends etc.).

But it's so odd that we will happily pay a monthly subscription to the likes of Navigraph but the thought of paying monthly to see the sim evolve is regarded as horrifying? Personally I would be prepared to pay especially if Microsoft are considering pulling the plug.

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4 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

But it's so odd that we will happily pay a monthly subscription to the likes of Navigraph but the thought of paying monthly to see the sim evolve is regarded as horrifying? Personally I would be prepared to pay especially if Microsoft are considering pulling the plug.

I would be willing to pay a monthly subscription for MSFS 2020....If this would allow to development to keep going. 

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40 minutes ago, Noel said:

How can they afford to sustain this?  What other 'game' title, or any kind of software title, gets this level of change over this period of time, w/ no end in sight?

Easy. Just look at the almost 10+ year old title by EA, Sims4.  It is much like MSFS. Multiplayer, big platform cloud based simulation. Sims4 is always developing new content and scenarios.  How can they afford to sustain this?

Simple:  they sell you “stuff” that you really don’t need to play the game, but you want it anyway if for nothing else, because of the cool factor. Much l,e many of the planes we duplicate here. 
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6 minutes ago, btacon said:

Nonsense. Just look at the almost 10+ year old title by EA, Sims4.  It is much like MSFS. Multiplayer, big platform cloud based simulation. Sims4 is always developing new content and scenarios.  How can they afford to sustain this?

Simple:  they sell you “stuff” that you really don’t need to play the game, but you want it anyway if for nothing else, because of the cool factor. Much l,e many of the planes we duplicate here. 
-B

There's a difference between The Sims and MSFS. Firstly the market is one hundred times greater than MSFS and secondly it needs no sustained development effort. It's totally different.

32 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

There's a difference between The Sims and MSFS. Firstly the market is one hundred times greater than MSFS and secondly it needs no sustained development effort. It's totally different.

Do you have data that supports your premise?  Because if you don’t your statements are no more or less accurate than mine because they are both supposition. 

27 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

There's a difference between The Sims and MSFS. Firstly the market is one hundred times greater than MSFS and secondly it needs no sustained development effort. It's totally different.

At this moment, for Steam users of both titles, it's 29K for Sims4, and 7K for MSFS (Steam only).  To me the bigger issue is maintaining servers to be able to feed all of this whereas for Sims4, not nearly the bandwidth required is my guess.   Once MSFS is essentially finished its development if MS decides it needs sub fees to keep it afloat I'm all in.

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Are there still sudden changes in the direction and strength of the wind while cruising?

22 minutes ago, btacon said:

Do you have data that supports your premise?  Because if you don’t your statements are no more or less accurate than mine because they are both supposition. 

Indeed. We are both guessing. 

1 minute ago, jarmstro said:

Indeed. We are both guessing. 

Indeed we are. And you sir are a honorable individual. 
-B

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