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It's nagging me to upgrade but I'm not interested in doing a new clean install of Win 11 at this point.  If you personally have installed Win 11 overtop of 10 please describe how it turned out for you, good and bad.  No need for recommendations on clean installs I'm only interested in what happened to people who did what I might consider doing.

Thanks in advance

 

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I've upgraded to win 11 from win 10 without any problem. All stuff works ok, MSFS works without problem, NO PROBLEMS AT ALL.

My initial win 10 installation come from 4 years ago.

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It was so straight forward and uneventful I can barely remember it I'm afraid. 

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I did it.  Absolutely no problems at all.  All apps and drivers worked fine (as did MSFS :smile:), so I never had a single problem. 
The process was quicker than I expected also.

The only thing I did was run a few cleaning apps before hand (registry cleaner etc.) and did a bit of housekeeping. 
I also went down my apps and programs list and deleted anything I didn't want any more.  It makes sense, and I was shocked how much rubbish was installed!

I now have MS Office 365 installed, Steam, loads of games, and many video and audio editing apps installed alongside Brave browser (Chrome based but with the baggage taken out).
All running fine.  

Just to add, there is very little evidence that a 'clean install' performs any better than an over-install these days.

So if your computer is in good health, I would say back up your W10 install and then go for it!  

Edit:  Forgot to say, but @edzunu reminded me.  My W10 install was also originally an over-install of W7 that I did so long ago I can't remember.

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Just now, Noel said:

It's nagging me to upgrade but I'm not interested in doing a new clean install of Win 11 at this point.  If you personally have installed Win 11 overtop of 10 please describe how it turned out for you, good and bad.  No need for recommendations on clean installs I'm only interested in what happened to people who did what I might consider doing.

Thanks in advance

I've upgraded to Windows 11 from 10. It was an easy proces but I had stability issues with MSFS so I did a clean install of Windows 11 which solved these.
I suspect some of the drivers for my hardware caused the issues.

There are few benefits upgrading to Windows 11 for MSFS. If your system is running fine I recommend waiting until you want/need to do a clean install of Windows.

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I was late to the Win11 party compared to some (I'd seen early adopters hit issues). But a month ago, I let my laptop upgrade itself to Win11 first.  No issues. 

I let a few weeks pass then let my main PC do the same. Again all good. I was half-expecting issues with some very old apps (with dependencies on some very old C++ runtime redistributables) but no, everything worked fine afterwards.

And MSFS exhibited no performance wobbles at all.

Sweet.

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I meant to say, my process was, install a new fast NVME drive, clone my older W10 SSD over to it (using the Samsung SSD software), take the old SSD out, set up the BIOS to boot from the new SSD, over install W11 on that new SSD.

If anything had gone wrong, I could have easily taken out the new SSD, refitted the old one, and boom, straight back into W10. 
Obviously I didn't need to though, but this gave me a lot of peace of mind, because it can be quite stressful with the worrying about anything going wrong during the W11 upgrade.


Call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind, but I prefer Rob.

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

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19 minutes ago, Noel said:

It's nagging me to upgrade but I'm not interested in doing a new clean install of Win 11 at this point.  If you personally have installed Win 11 overtop of 10 please describe how it turned out for you, good and bad.  No need for recommendations on clean installs I'm only interested in what happened to people who did what I might consider doing.

Thanks in advance

 

Not sure your motherboard is W11 compatible. 


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2 minutes ago, guibru said:

Not sure your motherboard is W11 compatible. 

It absolutely is.


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5 minutes ago, Noel said:

It absolutely is.

You’re lucky mine isn’t. 😔


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3 minutes ago, guibru said:

You’re lucky mine isn’t. 😔

Are you sure?  I had to switch to Native UEFI before my mobo was compliant:

TPM 2.0 is not supported in Legacy and CSM Modes of the BIOS. Devices with TPM 2.0 must have their BIOS mode configured as Native UEFI only


Noel

System:  7800x3D, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, Noctua NH-U12A, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Edge Sync for near zero Frame Time Variance achieving ultra-fluid animation at lower frame rates.

Aircraft used in A Pilot's Life V2:  PMDG 738, Aerosoft CRJ700, FBW A320nx, WT 787X

 

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I've only migrated my office PC to Windows 11. Works as expected. Layout is jarring and somewhat user unfriendly and you lose some customization in regards to de bloating the OS. But that is a personal preference.

For my Sim Rig i will be staying with Windows 10 until it is no longer supported or there is some tangible performance advantage with going with windows 11.


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I have migrated just this week.  No issues with MSFS that I've seen but I haven't completed a full flight yet.  I have a 3080 GPU and there are no changes to recommended settings for Windows 11.  Therefore, there are presumably no graphics benefits. It may be my imagination but panning may be a bit smoother.

There were a few things I had to sort out.  First is getting into the BIOS and finding the EUFI setting as mentioned above.

More problematic was updating the CFosSpeed driver (whatever that is).  The CFosSpeed website is useless: it doesn't want to give you an update but sell you a new version.  In the end I updated via the MSI Dragon Centre and that found an update without problem.  The Windows 11 update told me I'd need to make the EUFI change before I ran it but it didn't flag up any driver changes needed.

The other thing is the Windows has moved things around  e.g Advanced Sound Settings that allow you to route some sounds to speakers and others to headphones for example.  It's there, but you'll have to find it all over again.  Such things will pass.

 

 

 


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Upgraded both home pc's to Win 11.

No issues, no regrets.


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