Severe Texture Re-draw Popping post SU12

[bobcat999 8,444]

17 minutes ago, xenonsk said:

No. Just normal flight. I've tried LOD from 100 to 400, rolling cache on and off, but nothing helped.

It won't.  There is nothing you can do and nothing you are doing wrong, it is simply down to Asobo.

These issues are core to the visuals in the sim, so they really need to get on top of it.  The water exclusion bug they just introduced is another one that needs fixing with some urgency.

Edited March 28, 2023 by bobcat999

[David_CSA 36]

5 hours ago, tup61 said:

Interesting. I noticed this problem yesterday for the first time (textures loading in blocks during approach, DX11) but it was after I used time acceleration which I normally never use... so I thought it was due to that. I am curious to see if I'll have this problem again this evening if I don't use time acceleration.

Did anyone who has this problem use time accel perhaps...? Or slew?

I have seen it for the first time ever this week as well. Never before.

I do not use time acceleration.

 

[roland_lfor 245]

6 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

It won't.  There is nothing you can do and nothing you are doing wrong, it is simply down to Asobo.

These issues are core to the visuals in the sim, so they really need to get on top of it.  The water exclusion bug they just introduced is another one that needs fixing with some urgency.

Actually you can solve it, using the google tile replacement tool.

So it's specifically linked to MSFS / Bing peer.

Edited March 28, 2023 by roland_lfor

[bobcat999 8,444]

28 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

Actually you can solve it, using the google tile replacement tool.

So it's specifically linked to MSFS / Bing peer.

Sure Roland.  Thanks.  Not trying to be picky, but that is a work-around really rather than a cure. 

Some people won't use it.  I have looked at it but I am unsure if google might start blocking it in future under their terms of use.  It is a possibility.

MS / Asobo really need to fix it; that is the proper answer.  I just hope we don't have to wait too long!  

Edited March 28, 2023 by bobcat999

[roland_lfor 245]

Just now, bobcat999 said:

Sure Roland.  Thanks.  Not trying to be picky, but that is a work-around really rather than a cure. 

Some people won't use it.  I have looked at it but I am unsure if google might start blocking it in future under their terms of use.  It is a possibility.

MS / Asobo really need to fix it; that is the proper answer.  I just hope we don't have to wait too long!  

I only wanted to highlight that "These issues are core to the visuals in the sim" is a wrong assumption 😉

I agree it's a (maybe dirty) workaround.

[roland_lfor 245]

I believe that the cause of current issue is simple: the different LODs of a same tile are not comming from the same imagery pass.

What we are seeing is maybe an artefact of seasons devpt? (that should be hidden by Bing engine)

[bobcat999 8,444]

1 hour ago, roland_lfor said:

I believe that the cause of current issue is simple: the different LODs of a same tile are not comming from the same imagery pass.

What we are seeing is maybe an artefact of seasons devpt? (that should be hidden by Bing engine)

You could be on to something.  Sometimes the tiles just have a different colour to them when they change.  They seem to show a slightly darker green cast to them as they change rather than a completely different tile, almost like a semi-transparent overlay with a different tint to it.

It looks similar to when Bijan was experimenting with seasonal tints, except of course this is happening at close range.  There is a definite radius to it around the aircraft.

Edited March 28, 2023 by bobcat999

[David_CSA 36]

1 hour ago, roland_lfor said:

I believe that the cause of current issue is simple: the different LODs of a same tile are not comming from the same imagery pass.

This is exactly my conclusion. Just check my 2nd screenshot on pg. 1 of this thread, if you wish.

They are obviously tiles of the same place, but taken at totally different times. The main tiles, on the top of it, are processed the usual way before loading to MSFS. They have this yellowish, sunny, positive feel to them. The other set looks much colder and there's no postprocessing applied on it. {They look exactly as the Google replacement tiles, to be honest. They seem to have higher res. as well. That's why my constant suspicion they are remains of my experimenting with the Google replacement... I guess we all played with it in the past, didn't we?)

I was able to reproduce the same effect in the World Map. Seeing from high altitude, I get the std. yellowish tiles.. Then, just before getting almost as low as possible, suddenly the much colder looking tile(s) appear, but when zooming maximum in (the lowest altitude) the usual std. tiles are back again. As if the two sets of tiles were fighting which one shall be displayed.

BUT:

It happens only locally (I am aware of one region so far), I can fly on other myriad places without this disturbance in this amazing software Asobo/MS gave us. Being professionally involved in software development myself, albeit totally different industry, I can't stop myself from being constantly amazed by how much effort Asobo still puts into something which has been released already 2.5 years ago...

[David_CSA 36]

Initial altitude in World Map:

Closer...

Even closer...

Even closer 2...

The closest...

 

 

[David_CSA 36]

Or this one. I guess this one says it all...

 

[David_CSA 36]

Is anybody else, who experiences this, also a former user of the Google texture replacement mod, please?

Edited March 29, 2023 by David_CSA

[xenonsk 129]

20 minutes ago, David_CSA said:

Is anybody else, who experiences this, also a former user of the Google texture replacement mod, please?

Me. I've tried it about year ago. But problems for me started recently. Do you think, that there are some leftovers?

[bobcat999 8,444]

I downloaded the google map mod but never actually used it in the end, and I have these problems.

[Sky_Pilot071 579]

Tile popping is greatly reduced post SU12 here.  Using Google map tool with ARCGIS tiles.

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[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/aerial-ground-tiles-changing-popping-in/547197/1
 

Vote for it, seems widespread.