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Delay between hitting FLY and being in the game ?

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The jump into the game after  I hit the FLY button becomes longer and longer. Even with a default aircraft and airport. About 4 minutes. I have reasons to suspect my 4G connection but not entirely sure it is the only cause. Before I change my ISP (thinking of Starlink) I am interested to know whether this is after all normal or if, you folks, have better latency .

PS I don't use the cache as I rarely fly twice in a row in the same area.

  

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27 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I am interested to know whether this is after all normal or if, you folks, have better latency .

I have wired Ethernet and pretty much experience the same latency. I've grown accustomed to saying "It's their problem, not mine." I've downloaded the demo of Xplane 11 but still talk myself out of buying it. Maybe one day.

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50 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

The jump into the game after  I hit the FLY button becomes longer and longer. Even with a default aircraft and airport. About 4 minutes. I have reasons to suspect my 4G connection but not entirely sure it is the only cause. Before I change my ISP (thinking of Starlink) I am interested to know whether this is after all normal or if, you folks, have better latency .

PS I don't use the cache as I rarely fly twice in a row in the same area.

  

Try turning off online data, and see if it does the same thing.. If it does, you have a hardware problem with your PC. 

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I don't think that step should be depending on the quality of your internet connection, mostly because everything at that stage should be already loaded into the sim memory (terrain, vegetation, airport objects, photogrammetry, etc.) after the first and the menu (or flight selection) screen.

I would look into other possible causes.

In my case, after hitting the FLY button it's just a matter of seconds to be ready to get into the plane.

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600Mbs connection with MSFS on a dedicated SSD.  Addons linked by AddOn Manager are on a separate SSD dedicated to just them. And, Windows 11 is on it's own dedicated SSD.  So - Windows stuff and MSFS are all coming from very fast SSD sources. 

Click on FLY (from Main Menu - I think that is what the OP meant?) with empty community and no addons takes 31-seconds to see the plane on the runway.  With my "normal" community (about 14 permanent entries) and 70 or so AddOn links it takes about 57-seconds to get to the runway.

When I start the sim from the desktop with NO community it takes 1'31" to get to the main menu and 1' 55" with all the "normal" stuff and 70 Addons. 

These numbers have not changed in any of the last updates. 

The numbers above always include Map Enhancement and FSR running and FSUIPC and TDS 750 loaded with the sim.  

My MFS system has no security or firewall running.

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3 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

The jump into the game after  I hit the FLY button becomes longer and longer. Even with a default aircraft and airport. About 4 minutes. I have reasons to suspect my 4G connection but not entirely sure it is the only cause. Before I change my ISP (thinking of Starlink) I am interested to know whether this is after all normal or if, you folks, have better latency .

PS I don't use the cache as I rarely fly twice in a row in the same area.

  

Mine takes around 1 minute from pressing the Fly now button to being in the plane, this on an HDD. Looks like something is wrong there. If it's your 4G connection I don't know.

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4 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

The jump into the game after  I hit the FLY button becomes longer and longer. Even with a default aircraft and airport. About 4 minutes. I have reasons to suspect my 4G connection but not entirely sure it is the only cause. Before I change my ISP (thinking of Starlink) I am interested to know whether this is after all normal or if, you folks, have better latency .

PS I don't use the cache as I rarely fly twice in a row in the same area.

  

Do you mean the Fly button?  It should be just a second or two.  The PMDG 737 takes the longest, maybe a couple of seconds.

Or do you mean sim load time?

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Just to clarify, do you mean the time it takes after leaving the route setup screen and getting to the 'fly now' button or is this after you press the 'fly now' button? There are two stages. The second one, 'fly now', should happen right away. The time it takes when you leave the route setup 'world page' can take a while for everything to load.

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From sitting at the world map and going into the sim, it takes no more than 13-15 seconds for. Minutes sound drastic.

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6 minutes ago, Sethos said:

From sitting at the world map and going into the sim, it takes no more than 13-15 seconds for. Minutes sound drastic.

You guys talking about seconds forget not everyone has a modern CPU and M2 drives. He has an old CPU probably on an HDD (just like me and many others), it's not seconds for anyone with systems like that. But 4 minutes is too long. If his sim is on an HDD as I think it is, 1 minute is about what it should take from the Fly now button to being in the plane.

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If you use FStarter you can check how fast the scenery loads when you teleport to a POI or another marker on the FStarter map.

 

On my PC it takes just a few seconds to load a new flight with Fstarter.

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Thank you all to have taken the time, appreciated. Your answers make me think that the problem is indeed mostly on my side rather than on MS side, probably multi-faceted a lousy connection (not only the speed, continuity too) the main issue but maybe almost 10 year-old SSD getting a little tired ? 

11 hours ago, Alvega said:

You guys talking about seconds forget not everyone has a modern CPU and M2 drives.  

See my sig. A 4770+1080 machine which still runs the sim at 30 fps at high settings ! The sim is on a SSD and the addons on another SSD, being transfered to the former as needed by the Addon Linker.

11 hours ago, rjquick said:

Just to clarify, do you mean the time it takes after leaving the route setup screen and getting to the 'fly now' button or is this after you press the 'fly now' button?  

 

11 hours ago, Mace said:

Do you mean the Fly button?  It should be just a second or two.  The PMDG 737 takes the longest, maybe a couple of seconds.

Or do you mean sim load time?

After selecting the airport and/or the route, the FLY button on the World Map planner and not the in-game READY TO FLY which is instantaneous 

12 hours ago, TacomaSailor said:

  These numbers have not changed in any of the last updates. 

An important point in my search

15 hours ago, edpatino said:

I don't think that step should be depending on the quality of your internet connection, mostly because everything at that stage should be already loaded into the sim memory (terrain, vegetation, airport objects, photogrammetry, etc.) after the first and the menu (or flight selection) screen.

The blue bar that everybody loves, shows some loading then waits at about 75%. It  has to load something because I just selected the departure airport and route. It didn't know before where I was to fly. PG is off

15 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Try turning off online data, and see if it does the same thing.. If it does, you have a hardware problem with your PC. 

It takes much less time but still not instantaneous which would point to a slower SSD ? 

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1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

It takes much less time but still not instantaneous which would point to a slower SSD ? 

Well I think in your case it's simply a matter of the 4770 taking its time.   Mem speed, etc. all factor in.  You can reduce what's being loaded as was mentioned, which does help.


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22 minutes ago, Mace said:

Well I think in your case it's simply a matter of the 4770 taking its time.   Mem speed, etc. all factor in.  You can reduce what's being loaded as was mentioned, which does help.

If you tell me that I need a new computer I entirely agree 😁. But the 4770 doesn't explain it all as the longish jump in the sim was not here some months back. This is something which has crept on me and now becomes a nuisance. 

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is  that  the  only  issue  the loading  time  everything  else  runs  ok with in the  sim itself if  it  does than   just  wonder  around  the  room till it  loads  🙂


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