For all fans of ATR

[sd_flyer 6,040]

Here is good display of a challenging landings considering narrow gear and  heavy crosswinds! Notice after touch down ATR nose swing toward wind and  pilot struggles to keep directional control. Even with all deficiencies MSFS models it very well 

 

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[Alpine Scenery 1,609]

The ATR is fun to fly, but does the real world ATR pull to the left after take-off like the one in the SIM?

I have to use quit a bit of rudder trim when flying.

Another issue I have on take-off, is at times the engines RPM levels get stuck in the 20's when taking off, not sure the cause.

When it happens, I cannot get enough speed to safely gain altitude and I usually end up crashing (always a bummer).

 

Edited June 3, 2023 by Alpine Scenery

[EnSnellHest 51]

No it doesnt.

The ATR in game feels like a Cessna compared to RL.

Same on the ground, feels to "twitchy"

[sd_flyer 6,040]

5 hours ago, Alpine Scenery said:

The ATR is fun to fly, but does the real world ATR pull to the left after take-off like the one in the SIM?

 

 

Looks like ATR both engine rotates two the same direction (clockwise if stay right behind). So you will experience left turning tendencies

 

Here is covnetion turning engine - torque, P-factor, slipstream explained below 

https://www.pilotscafe.com/engine-inoperative-principles-in-a-twin-airplane/

 

[sd_flyer 6,040]

4 hours ago, EnSnellHest said:

No it doesnt.

The ATR in game feels like a Cessna compared to RL.

Same on the ground, feels to "twitchy"

Do you fly ATR for a living? I'm gladly to hear your opinion!

P.S. I own and fly a lot 172 IRL it they don't feel twitchy to me on the ground

[EnSnellHest 51]

16 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Do you fly ATR for a living? I'm gladly to hear your opinion!

P.S. I own and fly a lot 172 IRL it they don't feel twitchy to me on the ground

Yes Sir, both -500 and -600.

Its hard to compare the sim to the RL counterpart, but it just feels to light in my opinion.

Except when I try to slow down on approach, then it feels like a 747 in the sim. (Its much more easy to slow down IRL, especially when you go 100% RPM / 100% OVRD

[sd_flyer 6,040]

26 minutes ago, EnSnellHest said:

Yes Sir, both -500 and -600.

Its hard to compare the sim to the RL counterpart, but it just feels to light in my opinion.

Except when I try to slow down on approach, then it feels like a 747 in the sim. (Its much more easy to slow down IRL, especially when you go 100% RPM / 100% OVRD

Yes I have also noticed slowing down is a bit painful ! So I was wondering if i do anything wrong . I did adjusted my rudder pedals sensitivity down a bit to have a better grip. 
 

How to you guys handle take off ? Do you push nose down during take off for a better grip?

[EnSnellHest 51]

Yeah the control column would be forward during the start of the take off-roll, and then gradualy moved back as we're gaining speed.

[regis9 4,013]

45 minutes ago, EnSnellHest said:

Except when I try to slow down on approach, then it feels like a 747 in the sim. (Its much more easy to slow down IRL, especially when you go 100% RPM / 100% OVRD

I had wondered about that.  Different aircraft,  it I flew the Majestic Q400 a lot and always loved how nicely it slowed down with its big propellers causing drag, I  had assumed the ATR would be similar.

[Farlis 2,287]

59 minutes ago, EnSnellHest said:

Except when I try to slow down on approach, then it feels like a 747 in the sim.

I would have given you the benefit of the doubt, but this is just rubbish. The ATR is ridiculously easy to slow down on approach in the sim.

[EnSnellHest 51]

Not compared to what it is in real life

[188AHC 2,138]

43 minutes ago, Farlis said:

I would have given you the benefit of the doubt, but this is just rubbish. The ATR is ridiculously easy to slow down on approach in the sim.

Are you certified in any version in ATRs in real life? If not I suggest you keep your "rubbish" comments to yourself.

[Fiorentoni 4,220]

1 hour ago, EnSnellHest said:

Yes Sir, both -500 and -600.

Its hard to compare the sim to the RL counterpart, but it just feels to light in my opinion.

Except when I try to slow down on approach, then it feels like a 747 in the sim. (Its much more easy to slow down IRL, especially when you go 100% RPM / 100% OVRD

 

12 minutes ago, 188AHC said:

Are you certified in any version in ATRs in real life? If not I suggest you keep your "rubbish" comments to yourself.

I have to agree with @Farlis, saying it slows down like a 747 is silly. It's (in the sim) by far the easiest airliner to slow down on approach, by a large magnitude.

Edited June 3, 2023 by Fiorentoni

[F737MAX 5,586]

17 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

It's (in the sim) by far the easiest airliner to slow down on approach, by a large magnitude

That's similar to saying "my VW Golf GTi is the fastest car in the World, because all the other cars parked on my street are Toyota Prius / Ford Focus / SUVs."

In a relative comparison, the Asobo/HH ATR probably does slow down quicker than other airliners in MSFS and perhaps the 747 comment is a slight exaggeration.
However, in real life (if EnSnellHest is a genuine ATR pilot), he/she may be used to being able to change the condition levers to 100% OVRD to get the effect of 'throwing the anchors out' and seeing the associated large reduction in airspeed.

[Fiorentoni 4,220]

4 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

That's similar to saying "my VW Golf GTi is the fastest car in the World, because all the other cars parked on my street are Toyota Prius / Ford Focus / SUVs."

In a relative comparison, the Asobo/HH ATR probably does slow down quicker than other airliners in MSFS and perhaps the 747 comment is a slight exaggeration.
However, in real life (if EnSnellHest is a genuine ATR pilot), he/she may be used to being able to change the condition levers to 100% OVRD to get the effect of 'throwing the anchors out' and seeing the associated large reduction in airspeed.

That might all be true, but that would make the 747 comment a huge exaggeration, not a slight one. And that's all I'm complaining about. Being hyperbole destroys any civil discussion a priori.