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1 hour ago, Rimshot said:

That's what most simmers want I guess; MSFS doesn't give me this experience however in most parts of the world. Take our home country, The Netherlands, for instance. I can assure you it doesn't have that horrible blue tint it has in MSFS. And it is the same in many other parts of the world. The colouring of the streamed scenery is totally of... I have had better experiences with landclass scenery in P3D.

Coming from the Netherlands like you I can assure you that I don’t have a horrible blue tint. Not in the Netherlands nor in another country. 

Each sim uses different base colors, contrast, brightness. Therefore I did spent years to improve P3D shaders. Now with MSFS I use GeForce Gaming filters to improve the overall look. No oversaturrated Polaroid colors or a blue or green tint.

I even calibrated my monitors like I did with P3D. 

 

 


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38 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I detest inconsistent colouration of photoscenery textures, and I have often wondered how prevalent this is in Microsoft Flight Simulator. It used to bug the heck out of me when I used the UK VFR Photographic Scenery in P3D and FSX. Thankfully, ORBx developed TrueEarth Great Britain, and the colour consistency of the landscape in that product is superb. One of many reasons why I am perfectly happy to stick with Flight Unlimited Great Britain in P3Dv4 :wink:

Each True Earth country package has different coloring. The UK package differs from the NL package.Add other PR scenery packages and you can see where one country stops and the other begins. That is because each country uses different companies for making a PR presentation of their country. 

Google and Bing both have slightly color differences in certain areas but it looks more real than PR textures per country.

I had all of Europe PR + custom AG and adding/making new PR countries and custom AG I did almost on a daily base. Even Orbx PR scenery has repeating buildings. Not anymore now and it looks better. 
 
But I do hope V6 will bring just that …


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1 hour ago, Antonov22 said:

"Variety is the very spice of life, that gives it all its flavor.”

I said that once to my wife... She was not amused.🤣

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I still use P3D V4 and V5 and think as you can see in the pictures, a V 4.5 still cuts a fine figure.
And with all the money I've invested in the P3D, I won't be removing it from the system anytime soon.

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7 hours ago, turbomax said:

which are missing for you from MSFS?

I know I should not have responded to that thread 🤢

A2A (most of GA and Constellation)
Flysimware Falcon
Just to name a few...
 

7 hours ago, gaab said:

I give the highest priority to aircraft and I am still not convinced by photoscenery

Don't forget to fully quote.

I also use ChasePlane (just updated in 5.4 ;), Active Sky and REX Textures...

I thought that answer were ask for information only, no for debating...

Sorry, but I will stop answering in this thread...

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51 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Each sim uses different base colors, contrast, brightness. Therefore I did spent years to improve P3D shaders. Now with MSFS I use GeForce Gaming filters to improve the overall look. No oversaturrated Polaroid colors or a blue or green tint.

It takes some doing then to get it to look right, as supposed to perfection out of the box... No matter what sim you use, that has always been the case 😐 Would you mind sharing your Geforce Gaming Filter settings? You could make me enjoy MSFS a lot more 😁 Especially when the first A2A aircraft arrives. These planes by the way are the only reason I start up P3D once in a while.


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Free of charge no. But I had all the stuff necessary to make P3D look that good already when msfs came out so for me that's why I still use P3DV5. Along with many reasons already mentioned. No reason to repurchase addons I already own, especially expensive addon aircraft. 

Those are nice screen shots @Sethos.

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Please do not hijack the thread.  The topic is why people use P3D.


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3 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

Please do not hijack the thread.  The topic is why people use P3D.

Sir, was that for me? If so apologies.


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3 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

Please do not hijack the thread.  The topic is why people use P3D.

I started this thread and people keep telling me why P3D is better than MSFS, which is fine because it answers my question.


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3 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

Please do not hijack the thread.  The topic is why people use P3D.

How on earth can it be "hijacking", when the very premise of the thread by OP has comparisons to MSFS and the user quoted was making a critique against MSFS, that was shown it could be fixed, i.e a reason less to use P3D. The reason why people hold on to different products aren't done in a vacuum.

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20 minutes ago, Sethos said:

The reason why people hold on to different products aren't done in a vacuum.

exactly. All I was asking for was to keep it nice without the usual personal attacks like "have you ever flown yourself in a C150" etc. I am perfectly fine with people explaining what and why they still prefer an otherwise 13 year old sim. it mostly boils down to different priorities. 

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5 minutes ago, Sethos said:

How on earth can it be "hijacking", when the very premise of the thread by OP has comparisons to MSFS and the user quoted was making a critique against MSFS, that was shown it could be fixed, i.e a reason less to use P3D. The reason why people hold on to different products aren't done in a vacuum.

Because posting three photos of MSFS with commentary about fixing MSFS is nonresponsive to the question of why someone might use P3D.

We're keeping this thread on a short leash--we do not want/need another "my sim vs your sim" Donnybrook.

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I really like the look and feel of P3D over MSFS, but that is just me.  I find it funny how people start threads like these.  Why does it bother people so much that there are some of us that still like P3D over MSFS?  It's almost as if you have to convince yourself that MSFS is better for everyone, and we are beneath you.  People enjoy this hobby in many different ways, and for me, it will remain with P3D.  I am excited to see what version 6 has in store for those that still enjoy this great platform.

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1 hour ago, Deltaguy said:

It's almost as if you have to convince yourself that MSFS is better for everyone, and we are beneath you. 

that is nonsense. as I said before I DO use all 3 sims, that includes P3D. Ray Proudfoot gave 10 reasons why he still sticks with P3D, I see nothing better or worse, beneath or above in it.

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