15 minutes ago, Bdub22 said:

100% It's almost like people have forgotten there was FS2004 then FSX. X-plane 10, then 11, then 12... It's only reasonable that a studio releases a new title after while. We've gotten plenty of free updates and content. I welcome the new version and look forward to handing them my credit card again. 

Good reframing of information! On those good old days, the FS iterations were shorter: FS98, FS2000, FS2002, FS2004, FSX (2006). I think no one complained as much. Today XP and MSFS is in the 5 years average.

4 hours ago, Sethos said:

"Betrayal", really? This is getting a bit reactionary

A bit... ? We need a 'Throwing Toys Out Of a Pram Simulator' at this point, theres a huge market for it .. I'd buy it every 4 years.

So completely out of the loop here, but this is first I have heard about MSFS2024. I suppose it has been on the MS Forum?  So are there any details about what it is?   I mean, is it a new sim not connected to MSFS or is it DLC within the current Sim? My biggest concern is not what it is as much as if I have to pay for it. In which case I guess I may be stuck on an old version that eventually no longer gets updated? Lack of information is what drives the fear on here. Is this YT video just some ones interpretation of something or is it actually an MS product? Does anybody have any facts from a reliable source? 

 

Cheers

 

Terry 

1 hour ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Does anybody have any facts from a reliable source?

https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024/

https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-faq/

Also note the extra bits of info from Phil Spencer that divulges more than the trailer:

 

Edited June 12, 20232 yr by lwt1971

Just boggles my mind that we all like to talk and post about our system specs and high-end video cards and monitors and controllers and airport addons and payware planes and all other manner of trinkets associated with the hobby in our forum signatures but as soon as the company that develops the software technology that it's all based on makes the slightest hint at a new version that will cost us some undetermined yet still much more reasonable amount of money, people are suddenly astonished and apparently penniless.

 

6 hours ago, micstatic said:

I share some concern also.  However I'm reserving judgement as to what 2024 will look like in regards to the type of flying I do.  Just because I don't have a big interest in these special missions, doesn't mean I won't ultimately enjoy improvements it brings.  Jury is out for me.  I'm hoping it ends up ok.  It's hard to imagine going back to p3d or to xplane.  That wouldn't feel right at this point.  

if you like MSFS2020, you will like MSFS2024

46 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

Just boggles my mind that we all like to talk and post about our system specs and high-end video cards and monitors and controllers and airport addons and payware planes and all other manner of trinkets associated with the hobby in our forum signatures but as soon as the company that develops the software technology that it's all based on makes the slightest hint at a new version that will cost us some undetermined yet still much more reasonable amount of money, people are suddenly astonished and apparently penniless.

Absolutely.  The sim cost approx $100 depending on version, right?  There is not a single person who cares enough about it to post here who hasn't spent 100 hours in it at this point.  $1 / hr... Man, what an unreasonable cost for educational entertainment.  😂

30 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

Absolutely.  The sim cost approx $100 depending on version, right?  There is not a single person who cares enough about it to post here who hasn't spent 100 hours in it at this point.  $1 / hr... Man, what an unreasonable cost for educational entertainment.  😂

1 hour ago, Stoopy said:

Just boggles my mind that we all like to talk and post about our system specs and high-end video cards and monitors and controllers and airport addons and payware planes and all other manner of trinkets associated with the hobby in our forum signatures but as soon as the company that develops the software technology that it's all based on makes the slightest hint at a new version that will cost us some undetermined yet still much more reasonable amount of money, people are suddenly astonished and apparently penniless.

I guess those comments are aimed at me. My apologies for not wording that very well. It was for the sake of brevity. I wholeheartedly agree with you both that the cost of the sim is ludicrously cheap  considering the benefits returned. I guess my concern was more about what will and what will not, be usable from the (shall we say) "old" sim. This has happened many times before where some of us has spent thousands on hardware, computers, and add-ons only to find many of them incompatible or needing upgrade in the next version. I didn't want to explore that in my statement above because the question was that I really didn't know anything about this new product and it would of course be premature to raise this issue in detail and simply fearmongering yet again without any facts before us  But, since you called me out on it I guess I have to now reluctantly explain why it concerned me even though I have no facts to suggest this will be the case.  Again my apologies.  

 

Cheers

 

Terry        

6 minutes ago, Lord Farringdon said:

I guess those comments are aimed at me. My apologies for not wording that very well. It was for the sake of brevity. I wholeheartedly agree with you both that the cost of the sim is ludicrously cheap  considering the benefits returned. I guess my concern was more about what will and what will not, be usable from the (shall we say) "old" sim. This has happened many times before where some of us has spent thousands on hardware, computers, and add-ons only to find many of them incompatible or needing upgrade in the next version. I didn't want to explore that in my statement above because the question was that I really didn't know anything about this new product and it would of course be premature to raise this issue in detail and simply fearmongering yet again without any facts before us  But, since you called me out on it I guess I have to now reluctantly explain why it concerned me even though I have no facts to suggest this will be the case.  Again my apologies.  

 

Cheers

 

Terry        

No reason to apologize and actually my post wasn't aimed at you specifically - mine was maybe more just a pent-up response after reading some very outlandish and overblown reactions here and at the MSFS official site suggesting things like "breach of contract", "betrayal" and so on .  Yours is actually a point that I do get and is appreciated. 

It will be a while until we see MSFS 2024... hopefully the wait will be bearable for everyone...

 

Edited June 13, 20232 yr by Stoopy

What did you expect from Microsoft?🤣

I was actually wondering when FSXII would be announced.

Are we supposed to be mad they were going to release a new version four years after MSFS?

And they've already said the MSFS roadmap will be completed AND that addons will transfer (for free) to MSFS24. So what's not to like?

I also agree with those who say the career stuff is not just Xbox fodder. I fly Citations for a living. We do not fly just to fly. Real-world aviation is mission based.

betrayal???? this is a fantastic news for me! in the meanwhile i enjoy msfs 2020 and then the 2024 when out. Hope PMDG will make the 747 directly for the 2024 version

After reading so much negative feedback yesterday,   a meme entered my mind and hasn't left.

Just read the title of the YT video in the first post. How ridiculous and how embarrassing for a YT channel to publish content like this. Absolute senseless integrity!